00:00We need to obviously talk about Partygate.
00:03I got to those sections of the book,
00:05and it seemed to me, well, in terms,
00:07you basically say it wasn't a big deal.
00:10I regret apologizing.
00:12Is that really your position?
00:13You regret apologizing?
00:14No, no, no.
00:15That is what you say in the book.
00:17Let me explain what I said,
00:19because if you look at Unleashed,
00:21as I say, there's plenty of-
00:23I've read it.
00:24I'm paraphrasing, but that's what it says,
00:26that it was basically a load of nonsense
00:28and you regret apologizing.
00:29Do you regret apologizing to the Queen?
00:31Let me give you my own-
00:32Answer that.
00:33Do you regret apologizing to the Queen?
00:34Let me give you my own view of that.
00:36Well, if you answer my question,
00:38I'll, let's then perhaps go on to have your view.
00:41Do you regret apologizing to the Queen?
00:43Look, I don't discuss my conversations with the Queen.
00:45That wasn't my question.
00:46My question was, do you regret apologizing to the Queen?
00:48Let me explain what I meant by that observation.
00:53What I was trying to say there
00:55was I think that the blanket apology,
00:57the sort of apology I issued right at the beginning,
01:00I think the trouble with it was that afterwards,
01:04all the accusations that then rained down
01:07on officials who'd been working very hard
01:10in Number 10 and elsewhere were thought to be true.
01:14And by apologizing,
01:16I had sort of inadvertently validated the entire corpus.
01:20I get that.
01:20And it wasn't fair on those people.
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