When Saroj Khan Revealed The Truth Behind ‘Jumma Chumma’ & ‘Tamma Tamma’ Controversy

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In the '90s, Bollywood musicians RD Burman, Laxmikant-Pyarelal, and Bappi Lahiri were accused of copying tunes. Laxmikant-Pyarelal’s "Jumma Chumma" and Bappi’s "Tamma Tamma" both used a melody from African singer Mori Kante, leading to controversy. Choreographer Saroj Khan discussed this with Lehren, revealing the dark side of Bollywood. Don’t miss her insights.

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00:00Hawa hawa saath pictures mein repeat ho raha hai, tab ethics kahan gaye, tab logon ne

00:05mana kyun nahi kiya, kyunki wo Pakistan ka gaana tha isliye jab ko haq ke copy karne

00:10kar.

00:11We are technician, humein kisi se kya karna hai?

00:15This is fight between producer, music director and the director.

00:19Jahan tak copy karne ka sawal hai, humaari industry toh shuru se bhed chaal hai.

00:24Main kuch kahun, aap kuch kahe, kuch nahi hone wala.

00:27This is going to be there.

00:28Tell me which original tune is in Maine Pyaar Kiya?

00:39Saroj ji, Tamma Tamma aur Chumma Chumma yeh do geeto ke beech ho rahi controversy ke

00:44baar mein humein aap kuch bataayenge?

00:48Aise dekhne jaye toh koi controversy hona nahi chahiye.

00:52Because ek western hai aur ek totally Indian hai.

00:56It doesn't have to be any controversy.

00:59Dono gaane apne apne jagah pe bahot achche hai and they are quite well picturised.

01:07Ek sangeetkar ne jab gaana record kar liya, toh doosre ne sunkar waisa hi gaana tayyaar

01:12kiya.

01:13Kya morally doosre geet ko picturise karne me aapne jo saath diya wo sahi tha?

01:20Bilkul sahi tha because we are technician.

01:23Humein kisi se kya karna hai?

01:25This is fight between producer, music director and the director.

01:30Artist yeh nahi kaisakta mai kaam nahi karunga.

01:32Technician yeh nahi kaisakta mai kaam nahi karunga.

01:36Humara farz hai achcha kaam karke dena.

01:39That's all.

01:40Wo kahan se laate hain gaana?

01:42Kaise banaate hain?

01:43Humein usse kya karna?

01:45Aur jahaan tak copy karne ka sawal hai, humare industry toh shuru se bhed chaal hai.

01:51Agar ek hero achcha hai, toh usko das sign karenge.

01:54Agar ek hat gaya, toh das hat gaye.

01:56Koi nahi baat nahi, ek gaana achcha hai, toh sab uske peechhe lag jaate hain, wo style

02:01ke peechhe lag jaate hain.

02:02Ab ek do teen, pachis picturon me same repeat kiya gaya, toh kisi ne booma boom ki?

02:07Nahi.

02:09The song is popular, you can't help it.

02:11Hawa Hawa saath picturon me repeat ho raha hai, tab ethics kaan gaye?

02:16Tab logon ne mana kyu nahi kiya?

02:20Kyuki wo Pakistan ka gaana tha, isliye jab ko haq ke copy karne kar.

02:24Bolte na gareeb ki bibi, jab ki babi.

02:27Why?

02:30You shouldn't be, agar aisa hai toh morally shuru se dekho, aap mat copy karo.

02:35And Laxmikant Pyarenand ne, he hasn't taken an original tune.

02:39Even he has gone for a copy.

02:45Sir, Pappi Lahiri ne bhi suna, usne bhi suna, usne apna banaya, usne apna banaya.

02:49That's the problem.

02:51Original tune nahi hai, toh phir yeh jagda kyu ho raha hai?

02:55Original tune hai nahi, this is an African tune, everyone knows about it.

02:59Pappi Lahiri ne kya kiya hai, he has taken words also from the same group, ek record

03:06me se aur music jo hai, he has taken from a second record of the same group.

03:13Wo do ko mix karke usne banaya.

03:15Yaha inhone sirf tama tama ke badle me chuma chuma liye.

03:19Tama tama is the original word from that record.

03:25Jo original record hai African, usme tama tama hi hai.

03:29Which I have one duplicate of it.

03:32Agar yeh dono geeto ko picturise karne me, dance director aapko hi chuna jaata, toh

03:38kya aap yeh dono geet picturise karti?

03:40Karti, phir me itna guts hai, dono alag alag kisam ka picturise karke deti.

03:47I would have tried to make ek, ek do teen ek bana aur one two ka four ek bana.

03:52Sir, style dono alag alag hai, chuma chuma is a different style, tama tama is a different

03:58style, toh me dono bhi gaane kar leti.

04:01Aapko in dono geeto ka future kya lag raha hai?

04:06Very bright.

04:08Because Amitabh has got his own audience.

04:12Wo definitely utke nachenge us gaane pe.

04:14But it's so beautifully picturised.

04:16Though I haven't seen the full song, jo video me dikhate hain, utna hi dekha hai,

04:21but it's worth it.

04:23Same for tama tama, the only difference is people don't expect Sanjay Dutt to dance.

04:29Because he's got two left feet.

04:32But he has dance that might click with the audience.

04:37And I must say about Sudhir that he has not kept anything back, like he has done his utmost

04:45expenditure me, costumes me, shifts me, he never said anything.

04:51They went out and out for it.

04:53Yeh jo tunes lift kiye jaa rahe hain, aap iske baare mein kya kehna chahengi?

04:58Yeh toh shuru se chala aa raha hai, mai kuch kahu, aap kuch kahe, kuch nahi hone wala.

05:03This is going to be there.

05:05Tell me which original tune is in Maine Pyaar Kiya?

05:10Tell me.

05:12I'll give you every copy of English numbers.

05:14Maine Pyaar Kiya, every number is a copy.

05:20Hit ho gayi, ho gayi, bas.

05:23We are only concerned with the hits.

05:25We are not concerned from where the material is coming.

05:28As long as your pictures are running, why do we ask where it's coming from?

05:35Aap yeh bata rahi thi ki, jo gaana aapko originally picturise karne diya gaya tha for the mahoorat

05:43of a film.

05:43This song was originally Ramesh Sikkim's song.

05:47Kyun ki main Ramesh Sippy, Lakshmi ji, baith ke yeh gaana sun chuke hain and we were supposed

05:56to do this song on mahoorat day of Ram Ki Sita aur Shyam Ki Geeta.

06:03It was supposed to be the mahoorat song.

06:06Ek shot mein picturise karna tha.

06:08Time was very less.

06:10We were not getting time for rehearsals.

06:13Toh unhone decide kiya ki chalo abhi nahi karenge, thoda time rukke karenge.

06:22How did the song go to Ramesh Sharma?

06:25That's a different story.

06:28I don't know that.

06:29Because when I heard it, I rang up to Rameshji and I said, Rameshji yeh gaana toh hamara tha.

06:35He says, Saroj, ab main kya bolu, kaisa chala gaya ho gaya?

06:39So, it should be Ramesh Sippy who should be shouting, not Ramesh Sharma.

06:46You understand?

06:47Because this song was supposed to be the mahoorat song of that picture.

06:52And even Lakshmikanth can't say that it's not true because I was there when this was made.

07:00I have never opened my mouth because they just keep on yapping, yapping, yapping.

07:04They don't go to the base.

07:05It should be Ramesh Sippy who should shout, how did my song go there?

07:11Time was less, fir bole jaane do abhi nahi karte hain, practice karte karte time lagega,

07:17toh might as well hum, aah, un dino mein Shri Devi ko moch aayi thi paav mein.

07:22Toh song nahi karenge, 14 page ka ek scene karenge, in one shot.

07:28They did that.

07:35So, it should be Ramesh Sippy who should be shouting, not Ramesh Sharma.

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