00:00I noticed Nicky was a lot closer to me in front of the social club and framed you know my 400mm
00:06lens very nicely so I chose to focus on Nicky and you know he was in that euphoric state of
00:15jubilation just very happy at winning. So we both positioned ourselves near the race where they come
00:21off and as they came off I remember Winmar just stopping near the Collingwood cheer squad. People
00:28yelling and screaming death threats, we're going to get you and do this and that. One bloke want
00:36to punch you through the fence, another bloke want to fight you on the over. Oh my god we just
00:42run around for nearly two hours and they want to fight. It's crazy. And then you know he stops,
00:50hesitates, sort of checks himself and then the next frame he's lifting his jumper and the next
00:56frame he's lifting it higher and he's pointing to his skin and he said I'm proud to be black. I
01:02just got tired of it, I got sick of it so I just wanted to show him that you know colour of my skin
01:07and who I was. We've both taken the same picture but Wayne's is full length whereas with mine
01:15I've got Winmar sort of cut off sort of mid-thigh. Wayne shot that picture but then ran on with a
01:23wide lens and he heard Winmar say that I'm black and I'm proud of it. I was totally concentrating
01:29on him to get the best picture I could so I'm glad I did, I'm glad I didn't f**k it up, yeah.
01:34I think I used my middle finger towards the crowd before I put it into my stomach so
01:38I think I got the right, you know. The shock of a player turning to the crowd and doing that,
01:45I found that quite, I mean at the time it was did you see what just happened and I knew
01:52it was racism and I said to my girlfriend, I said I could see this happening Sylvia
02:00and she said what do you mean Marlene and I said yeah of course. He was rattled in this game.
02:05There's no video, there's no footage of it, yeah the commentators didn't address it. It
02:09was left to John and I to record as it turns out a very significant moment in history.
02:21you
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