00:00Namaskar! Welcome to the daily discussion of Daily Line.
00:12In today's discussion, we will talk about Uttar Pradesh Government.
00:15It is important to talk about this because the way Uttar Pradesh government was opposed by its own legislators,
00:24the discussion started all around.
00:27Let me tell you that Uttar Pradesh government presented Uttar Pradesh Resolution 2024 in the Legislative Council.
00:34Where the opposition was opposing this, some of the legislators of the BJP got together.
00:40However, the way opposition started in the party, now it has been suspended in the Legislative Council.
00:48Such news is coming out.
00:50But the most important thing is that why did the opposition happen?
00:54Our political editor, Mr. Apshay Pandey is with us to discuss this.
00:58Sir, welcome.
01:00Sir, after a long time, it has been seen that the legislators of their own party are opposing the laws of their own government.
01:10After that, it has been suspended in the Legislative Council.
01:14Even Bhupen Chaudhary himself opposed it.
01:16How can this be seen?
01:18See, it is being said that the Yogi government is under pressure.
01:22Generally, this line is not heard because the Yogi government does not take any pressure.
01:26But now it is taking pressure because its own people are opposing.
01:30Since the results of the Lok Sabha have come, BJP has been at a loss in Uttar Pradesh.
01:35And it is being said that the question is being raised on leadership.
01:39Since then, there is pressure on the Yogi government.
01:41And as soon as the law was brought that a bill should be brought to regulate the land,
01:48the land is in the whole of the state.
01:50So, the opposition was opposed.
01:53Even from the BJP government, the legislators raised questions.
01:57And they raised so many questions.
01:59It has been said that many legislators met the Chief Minister.
02:03He said that you should understand that you will have to bear the loss.
02:07Because a lot of poor people have been given land,
02:10they have been given banners, they have been given food so that they can survive.
02:13If we cannot make them understand, then it will be the same as the issue of reservation.
02:18Even in reservation, you could not make the poor people understand that we are not going to take anything from you.
02:23But there was a wave that the government will play with your reservation.
02:27So, in the same way, if you are not able to make people understand about the issue of land,
02:32you can tell people that your intention is very good,
02:34that we are going to do this with this Najuul Bhoomi Adhiniyam,
02:37no one has been harmed by this.
02:39But people will agree to this.
02:41That is why I feel that this is the same thing that the milk has been spilled.
02:46So, immediately the Yogi government was convinced that no, we have to talk about this now.
02:51Because this bill was passed in the Vidhan Sabha.
02:53It was out of hand.
02:55What could you have done?
02:56It was sent to the Standing Committee in Vidhan Parishad,
02:59that something should be improved in this.
03:01The problems should be solved.
03:03You can say that this is an ordinary bill.
03:06But see how far the message of this bill has reached.
03:09The message has reached that a government that never came under pressure,
03:13has to listen to everyone.
03:15It has to be under pressure.
03:17The parties of the reservation, even Anupriya Patel,
03:19Anupriya Patel wrote a letter.
03:21See, the head of the state.
03:24The head of the state himself said that no, everyone needs to agree to this now.
03:29So, these things must have reached there.
03:32Sir, this is the same thing that you did with the reservation.
03:35If this is the case,
03:37If the narrative is set, then...
03:39Because the big beneficiaries of this are the poor people.
03:41In the slums, in small places,
03:43who are living in slums.
03:45You are not going to take it from them.
03:47It is like this.
03:48See in the bill.
03:49It is not written anywhere in the bill that we will take it back.
03:52But you will not be able to explain it properly.
03:54Or in a way, the rumors have spread below.
03:57Then you will have a problem in 2027.
04:00Yogi ji is saying that he will clean it up.
04:02He will clean it up.
04:03But it will not be like that.
04:04That is why I think that at the right time,
04:06he also realized that sometimes you have to take a step back for a long jump.
04:13So he met the people of this bill.
04:17He met the ministers and decided that no, we will keep this.
04:21We will keep it in a cool slum.
04:23It will be seen when everyone agrees.
04:25Then it will be done.
04:26And now they are looking for who said this happened.
04:29This is also going on in the party, in the BJP.
04:31Who is this brother who advises all this?
04:34Why are you giving such advice that you want to take something from the poor?
04:38I was coming to this.
04:39After all, there are so many people in the government.
04:41There is a former minister, there is a MLA.
04:43The head of the state himself is opposing.
04:46The central minister is opposing.
04:48So, in the end, was this advice not taken from each other in the government?
04:52Or is it that the officials work so cleverly that they prepare proposals,
04:56and the MLA comes forward and the government does not even know.
04:59You are absolutely right.
05:00It was not taken.
05:01There was no conversation.
05:02There was no dialogue at all.
05:03When there is a very strong government,
05:05then all things are such that whoever feels that this is right,
05:08and everything is right,
05:09no voice is raised.
05:11But when you talk to people,
05:16then you get to know more good things.
05:19It is not that the officials must have drafted this bill,
05:22must have prepared its proposal.
05:24They are the most capable and intelligent people in the world.
05:26Other people are also intelligent.
05:27You understand everything.
05:28What can be the basic problems?
05:30Understand this too.
05:32The government is there to discuss and listen to everyone.
05:35So, this was just a small bill.
05:40If it was a very old government,
05:42then everything would have been passed,
05:43no one would have been able to do anything.
05:44But what was the message from this?
05:46The message was that if you do not listen,
05:49then there can be a problem.
05:51You have taken a shock.
05:53And now it is that how much can anyone be suppressed?
05:57The MLA who used to remain silent,
05:59did not speak,
06:00did not have the courage to speak to any MLA.
06:02After 4 days, all these things have started to go wrong.
06:04Now people are giving advice to the MLA in the parliament
06:07that we want to add advice to this.
06:09Earlier, did anyone have the courage to stand in front of Yogi Ji
06:12and give advice there?
06:13But now they are giving advice.
06:14This is what happens in democracy.
06:17The public is the king.
06:19If someone thinks that I am the king
06:21or the numbers that have come to me
06:23are making me the king,
06:24then there is nothing like that.
06:25You think what change has come in a month
06:28that the MLA started giving advice to you,
06:30started standing and speaking,
06:32and you have to listen and listen.
06:34This is a good thing that you are listening and listening.
06:36Absolutely.
06:37He is also a representative of the people.
06:39So this Mahatma Gandhi,
06:41this was a far-fetched thought.
06:43If it had not been thought,
06:45you understand that this topic is related to people,
06:49to people's wealth.
06:51If you take one rupee from someone,
06:53he will get angry.
06:54If you even think about someone's land,
06:56that we can ever take,
06:57then think about it.
06:58In rural areas,
06:59those who have these lands,
07:01you see, in rural areas,
07:02every inch of land becomes profitable.
07:05The biggest issue is of revenue.
07:07The biggest issue is of revenue.
07:10More than 80% of the crime is due to revenue.
07:13So you were raising another issue.
07:16Now the point is,
07:17who gave this advice?
07:19I feel that it should be brought forward.
07:21What did you think when you made this?
07:24In a welfare state like India,
07:27where the government itself is giving people land,
07:31you could have added something to it.
07:33But first explain to people
07:35what we want to do.
07:37What is the purpose?
07:38People are still afraid.
07:40They are afraid because they are weak.
07:42They don't have anything of their own.
07:44That's why people are afraid.
07:45This is what people are afraid of on the issue of reservation.
07:47This is the only thing I have.
07:49If this also goes away, what will be left?
07:50One more thing is coming up.
07:52Although, the low-level officials of the MLA,
07:56the leaders of the organization,
07:58keep saying that the officials do as they please,
08:00but they don't listen.
08:01Now this has come out openly.
08:03The MLA has come out openly.
08:05So, what is the purpose of the MLA's caucus?
08:09He says that the MLA does as he pleases,
08:13but he doesn't listen to the MLA.
08:15Is this really a caucus?
08:17To a large extent, this is true.
08:20When you deliver a message,
08:23when you start working,
08:25you will be able to do better
08:27when there is no hindrance.
08:28To a large extent, this is true.
08:30If the leaders interfere in the work of the officials,
08:33they will not be able to work.
08:35But after a while,
08:37the officials feel that there is nothing left for them.
08:41They also need check and balance.
08:43They need control.
08:45There was no check and balance barrier in between.
08:48This was the only problem.
08:50All the MLAs had this pain.
08:52They didn't pick up the DM's phone.
08:54The officials didn't pick up the SP's phone.
08:56Even the central minister used to tell
08:58that the people of Nagar Nigam are not picking up the phone.
09:00The officials are not picking up the phone.
09:02The people of Nagar Vikas are not picking up the phone.
09:04There are so many examples
09:06where the minister used to call
09:08the chief executive of his department
09:10but he didn't pick up the phone.
09:12The situation has come to this
09:14because you have given so much free hand to Mr. Yogi.
09:17Don't question Mr. Yogi's intentions.
09:20I am saying this again.
09:22His intentions are right.
09:24But your intentions don't work just by being right.
09:26You have to think in every possible way.
09:31If it is a matter related to the public,
09:34you have to ask the people.
09:37If Mr. Yogi was just taking opinions from the people,
09:41then this wouldn't have been a problem.
09:43The failure of the officials
09:45can't be questioned
09:47because they don't have a personal agenda.
09:51But the officials have shown them
09:54through their delivery system
09:58that they have been given the freedom
10:00to do whatever they want.
10:02No minister, no MP, no PM,
10:06no one will lie.
10:08You call any officer right now.
10:12If you don't have a personal agenda,
10:14they won't pick up the phone.
10:16If someone picks up the phone,
10:18they will ask what meeting is going on all day.
10:21I am talking about the police.
10:23The officials or the departments
10:25that are directly related to the public,
10:27you can put the money in the CUG number,
10:29but the CUG number doesn't come up.
10:31It never comes up.
10:33It is a very common thing
10:35that it is a welfare state
10:37and the responsibility is towards the public.
10:39The people are worried
10:41because they are not getting the response system.
10:44And they are not getting it
10:46because they don't have any control
10:48over the public.
10:50This is the problem.
10:52And now when this kind of law has come up,
10:54the party is in a mess.
10:56What is this new problem?
10:58One was tolerating it,
11:00and now a new one has come up.
11:02It has been controlled.
11:04I don't think it is a question
11:06of Yogi Adityanath's will,
11:08but it is a question
11:10that you have to run the people
11:12in your support system
11:14properly.
11:16On the one hand,
11:18you have to give the right support
11:20to the representatives
11:22so that you get the right feedback
11:24from the representatives
11:26and on the basis of that feedback,
11:28you make a policy
11:30and get them to work.
11:32So, in a nutshell,
11:34it is a democracy
11:36and everything that happens
11:38in a democracy is for the people.
11:40So, the representatives
11:42have been elected by the people.
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