PTI Par Ban Ka Faisla, Hukumat Apne hi Faislay say Peeche Kiyu Hatne Lagi? Experts opinion

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PTI Par Ban Ka Faisla, Hukumat Apne hi Faislay say Peeche Kiyu Hatne Lagi? Experts opinion

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00:00Ladies and gentlemen, there is only one topic under discussion in Pakistan right now and that is on the political side.

00:06The government has announced that they are going to ban Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.

00:13A decision has been made, a proposal has been made.

00:15Or it is just in the process, a discussion is going on, ideas are being discussed.

00:20Different opinions are coming forward on this.

00:23We have seen that initially when this news came, what was the news?

00:27In front of us, the Federal Information Minister, Mr. Muhtar Tariq, he held a press conference.

00:34The news came to the media through him.

00:37The media's fault is that when the news comes, the media first publishes the news.

00:44The information minister is the spokesperson of the federal government.

00:47The responsibility of the federal government is also entrusted to him.

00:54So when he announces something, when he gives a news,

00:58then traditionally the media always takes the information minister very seriously.

01:03And it should be taken seriously.

01:05When the news came, when further discussion started on this,

01:10we saw that different senior ministers, Khawaja Asif, Rana Sinala,

01:16and other ministers of the current government,

01:19they started talking about this.

01:22That there are ideas that are being discussed.

01:26We will also talk to our allies.

01:28This is in the initial phases.

01:31This is a proposal.

01:34No decision has been made on this yet.

01:36But first of all, Mr. Tariq, while giving an interview on the Talibian channel,

01:42when he was asked this question,

01:44and when he was asked this question, he was very upset.

01:47He said, what is this?

01:49He said, if you talk like this, you will catch it.

01:53Listen.

01:55As far as the PTA is concerned,

01:57the problem with us is that when we talk,

02:00then these reactions start.

02:03This is a proposal.

02:05And the further discussion on this proposal,

02:08we will do with our political allies.

02:11After that, we will be asked,

02:14those who are working on the legal side,

02:16then the reports of the Interior Ministry are very relevant.

02:20And what your intelligence agencies have collected so far,

02:24because you have to look at it in the context of Article 17.2

02:28and Election Act 2017 language.

02:31That material is processed after it comes.

02:34So let's assume that this is the beginning of a deliberative process.

02:38You cannot connect this to an announcement or a logical decision or a final decision.

02:43It's a process which has been ignited.

02:46There should be a discussion on this.

02:48Like there is a show-cause that why not take this path.

02:52But this cannot be a final decision.

02:55The law minister has said three important things.

02:57The law minister is also a very important minister of the cabinet.

03:01He is saying that it is just a process which has been ignited.

03:05A discussion has just begun.

03:07Then he says that he has used the language of the law.

03:11When someone is asked,

03:13why not put this insulting court against you or work on it?

03:18But what we see is that if someone works,

03:21then he is called and asked,

03:23if you have done this work, then why not start this action on you?

03:27But we will come back again.

03:29Because the media,

03:31although the entire government is respected,

03:35but in the cabinet,

03:37a minister or a ministry which has a lot to do with it,

03:41is the information ministry.

03:43And our respected Mr. Ataar,

03:45with great eloquence and eloquence,

03:48with articulation,

03:50the decision of the entire government,

03:53he did not use the word decision.

03:55He did not talk about deliberation or process.

03:58He gave the decision of the entire government.

04:29We will go step by step.

04:31Hassan, I will start with you first.

04:33What is the fault of you or me or Mr. Chaudhary or Mr. Anuki?

04:37If the information minister,

04:39you have heard this,

04:41decision, decision, decision,

04:43then what should we do?

04:45What should we say to the decision?

04:47No, this is not a decision, this is a deliberation.

04:49No, I was getting to the point that

04:51in the original press conference,

04:53you are right,

04:55the government has made this decision,

04:57the media has made this decision twice or thrice.

04:59No, no.

05:01It is to clarify that this is a decision,

05:03now don't deny it.

05:05We are only telling their language.

05:07We are being told that the media

05:09thinks you are strange.

05:11What is the fault in this?

05:13We don't have any hearing problem.

05:15I mean, my lord,

05:17the words that we have spoken

05:19for the respected information minister,

05:21the media has conveyed those words to the public.

05:24There is no other opinion in this,

05:26what Atta Tarar is saying,

05:28is the same,

05:30as I told you yesterday,

05:32this is not a decision,

05:34but until this decision is not

05:36endorsed by the parliament,

05:38these two matters will not be

05:40proceeded further.

05:42The issue of article 6,

05:44there is a lot of seriousness on it,

05:46and the issue of declaring

05:48Tehrik-e-Insaf as a terrorism

05:50under article 17,

05:52it is not that serious,

05:54Atta Tarar had said that

05:56the decision has been made

05:58under article 17,

06:00and also under article 6.

06:02The media did not say anything wrong,

06:04these were Atta Tarar's own words.

06:06Mr. Nagri,

06:08I mean, where did we make a mistake?

06:10The government is not expressing

06:12its opinion on 3-4 major issues,

06:14it is making a decision,

06:16and the information minister

06:18is a mouthpiece,

06:20a spokesperson of the government of the day,

06:22and he has a whole ministry,

06:24and in the ministry,

06:26you must have seen,

06:28if you show it to the producer,

06:30he is representing the government

06:32by putting up a flag,

06:34so there he made this decision,

06:36see this,

06:38he is representing the government

06:40of Pakistan,

06:42there he made this decision

06:44and made a press conference.

06:46Now Mr. Nagri is saying

06:48that you have understood the point,

06:50I would like to ask,

06:52for the sake of the viewers,

06:54what did Azam Nazeer Tarr

06:56say, the law minister,

06:58that this is how you hold things?

07:00As far as the PTA is concerned,

07:02our problem is that

07:04when the matter is in the mouth,

07:06then these reactions start.

07:08This is a suggestion,

07:10and further discussion on this suggestion…

07:14Mr. Nagri, why do you hold

07:16the matter in your mouth

07:18and for no reason

07:20you start using

07:22your own words?

07:26Mr. Khawar, you must remember,

07:28I told you three days ago

07:30that there is no such decision,

07:32there is only discussion,

07:34I told you in this show,

07:36that Azam Nazeer Tarr

07:38said this yesterday,

07:40I told him this two days ago,

07:42that there is no such decision,

07:44there is only discussion,

07:46but this is how governments work,

07:48in politics,

07:50this is how

07:52statements are made,

07:54and then those statements

07:56are continuously brought

07:58to the media and other discussions,

08:00and we have seen this

08:02in every government,

08:04where such things were said,

08:06by the Ministry of Inquiry,

08:08or by other ministries,

08:10but after that

08:12no action was taken on them.

08:14The voice clip I heard,

08:16which you just played,

08:18Azam Nazeer Tarr,

08:20he said that we will move the case,

08:22what does it mean to move the case?

08:24Does it mean that they will talk

08:26in a future tense?

08:28We will do such an activity

08:30in the future,

08:32and if all the stakeholders

08:34do not endorse that activity,

08:36then that activity can also stop,

08:38there is no problem in that.

08:40Okay, Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain,

08:42I will disagree with you a little,

08:44politics is a political party,

08:46when a political party comes

08:48into power,

08:50and you have the

08:52Ministry of Inquiry,

08:54then when you speak,

08:56you have to choose the words

08:58with a lot of thought,

09:00because the decision,

09:02the decision again,

09:04Huzoor also said,

09:06why are you repeating it again and again,

09:08maybe we have made a mistake

09:10or maybe we did not have a problem.

09:12The government has decided,

09:14the government has decided,

09:16looking at all these things,

09:18looking at the evidence,

09:20the loyal government,

09:22the loyal government will move the case

09:24to ban PTI.

09:26There is a lot of credible evidence

09:28that the law should be banned.

09:30The government has decided

09:32that President Arif Alvi,

09:34Prime Minister Imran Niazi

09:36and Deputy Speaker Qasim Suri

09:38and the reference of Article 6

09:40will also be sent to the Supreme Court

09:42after the approval of the Cabinet.

09:44Chaudhry Ghulam Sahib,

09:46did you understand correctly,

09:48the decision that was made,

09:50because they are saying,

09:52Tariq Sahib is saying,

09:54there are two Tariq Sahibs,

09:56one is the Information Minister

09:58and Azam Aziz Tariq Sahib

10:00is the Law Minister,

10:02he has more experience,

10:04so they are saying that

10:06who is accusing you

10:08or the media,

10:10I did not understand.

10:12They themselves,

10:14before the press conference

10:16of Atta Tariq,

10:18they have shown the video

10:20and they were presenting

10:22their evidence

10:24that this is our case

10:26and this is our decision.

10:28We have been asking

10:30at what level this decision was made.

10:32Because this government

10:34cannot survive without the support

10:36of the People's Party.

10:38There is no case of 1920.

10:40If there is not 100% support

10:42of the People's Party,

10:44they say,

10:46we did not get any advice.

10:48So what is the relation

10:50of the media or anyone else?

10:52These are their intentions

10:54and those who want

10:56to make some other induction,

10:58they want the majority

11:00that if we make that reference,

11:02the majority will be available

11:04to approve it.

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