00:00Namaskar, my name is Prashant and you are connected with Daily Line's Daily Discussion.
00:12So in the Daily Discussion, we will talk about the protest of lakhs of teachers and the government's order
00:21in which it was said that the attendance will be done digitally and attendance is mandatory.
00:28The protest is being done by teachers and the weather is also responsible in many ways.
00:32Many reasons are being counted.
00:34Today, we will talk about how true is the government's order and how true is the protest of teachers
00:41and we will also try to find the reasons behind it.
00:47Our co-host Abhishek Pandey is with us.
00:49Abhishek ji, welcome.
00:51Thank you.
00:52The teachers who are protesting, the hashtags are going on.
00:57Should there be two types of education system in this country?
01:03When the teacher goes, he takes the attendance of the students.
01:07Now if the teacher is being attended, what is wrong in that?
01:10This is absolutely right.
01:12A school does not have a fixed time.
01:15The school opens at this time and closes at this time.
01:18So it is right that if the teacher has to take the class at 8, he will go at 9 or 10.
01:24So when will he teach?
01:25This is absolutely right, Prashant ji.
01:27The teachers should come on time.
01:29There are 6 lakh teachers in a big state like Uttar Pradesh.
01:32It is not that everyone is wrong.
01:34But you will also have to see what problem is coming in front of these teachers.
01:396 lakh people will not be wrong.
01:41You understand their problems.
01:43First of all, they may not get the status of state employees.
01:46This is one of their problems.
01:48Secondly, the basic facilities that should be available,
01:52for example, if you consider their salary,
01:56a father, a clerk, you see how many facilities are there in front of him,
02:00what facilities does he get?
02:02The problem in front of the teachers is that they have to go to rural areas to teach.
02:07They need good roads, good infrastructure, facilities in the school.
02:11In today's time, our schools are still struggling with basic facilities.
02:19So in such a situation, these teachers feel that if we are going here,
02:23in a way, it is our contribution,
02:25in the way we are teaching the children,
02:27in the way we are providing education to the children,
02:31nothing should be imposed on us forcefully.
02:34I think this is a matter of understanding.
02:36The impact and the forceful implementation of things,
02:40for example, the teacher keeps going to the school from time to time.
02:45So in front of the teachers, they feel that apart from our work,
02:49this is additional work.
02:51Now we have to forcefully give our loyalty test,
02:54whether we are present in the school or not.
02:56There are many who are not, I know this.
02:58I have a friend,
03:00I used to be the education minister in the previous government,
03:03Ram Govind Choudhary.
03:05One day he was praising us a lot about our schools,
03:08that we have done this, we have done that.
03:10There are highly qualified teachers, T.E.T., B.Ed., etc.
03:13We said that you don't know the ground reality.
03:16We have a friend, you teach him.
03:18I will not tell his name, otherwise you will suspend him.
03:21He has never gone to teach till date.
03:23So he kept asking, who is it, tell us.
03:25We said, it's not just one, there are thousands like him.
03:28The problem is that the system,
03:30there is an announced system,
03:32and an unannounced system is formed,
03:34especially between the government system,
03:36and the employees,
03:38or those who have accountability.
03:42There are many such schools.
03:44If you go and see,
03:46he is a teacher,
03:48but he has kept a teacher for himself.
03:50There are many such schools.
03:52They teach their own children in the convent,
03:54not in their own school.
03:56I have spoken to many such teachers.
03:58There are people in our homes too.
04:00So we have to say that
04:02we are good qualified teachers,
04:04we are getting good salary,
04:06why should we teach our children in the convent?
04:09To teach our children well,
04:11we will teach them with facilities,
04:13where there are good benches,
04:15good lights, smart boards,
04:17good classrooms, drinking water,
04:19toilets, facilities, transport.
04:23We are getting good salary,
04:25so if we are teachers,
04:27we should teach in our school,
04:29why should we teach in the convent?
04:31This is their right.
04:33Some time ago,
04:35there was a decision of Allahabad High Court.
04:37It was said to all the people,
04:39that the employees, teachers,
04:41should teach their children in the convent.
04:43I know many such people.
04:45They have sent their children
04:47to the convent.
04:49So,
04:51there cannot be sudden overnight changes.
04:53Teachers also have their own problems.
04:55We should understand this.
04:57And the government should also understand
04:59that the work we are doing,
05:01with the help of these teachers,
05:03we have to make a balance in this.
05:05The teacher is the one
05:07who gives education to the children
05:09and creates a foundation.
05:11So we should understand their problems.
05:13And such a big organization of teachers,
05:15there are 6 lakh teachers,
05:17a big class is opposing this.
05:19Not all teachers are like this.
05:21The majority of the teachers
05:23go to the convent,
05:25and teach the students.
05:27How should this be filtered?
05:29Should a competitive environment
05:31be created?
05:33In welfare,
05:35in such schools,
05:37should a competitive environment be created
05:39so that the teachers don't feel
05:41that the government is
05:43giving us such an order.
05:45That you have to go there,
05:47etc.
05:49And such an organization
05:51can be created
05:53based on the rating,
05:55the promotions,
05:57the service time period,
05:59and based on your
06:01facilities and
06:03grading,
06:05you can incorporate
06:07and get the final result.
06:09There are many suggestions
06:11that there is a problem
06:13with the teachers.
06:15India is a welfare state.
06:17So, this education
06:19and free education
06:21which is your fundamental right for 6-14 years,
06:23you have to give it.
06:25Like a company, you cannot see
06:27any loss or gain in it.
06:29But to
06:31improvise and make it better,
06:33we have to see
06:35that in such a big system,
06:37where the fundamental right is to give
06:39compulsory education to children,
06:41we are giving everything,
06:43why is it not improving?
06:45This should be a matter of ratings.
06:47Why not?
06:49Performance appraisal is also there.
06:51We don't do a good job.
06:53My salary is not that much.
06:55It is yours.
06:57So, performance appraisal
06:59should be there.
07:01It is not that if you become
07:03a government employee or a teacher,
07:05you have to retire at 60 years.
07:07There is a screening system at 50 years.
07:09It should be implemented immediately.
07:11There are many teachers
07:13who come from different places
07:15and cannot teach.
07:17We have seen so many videos.
07:19So, there should be a skill screening system.
07:21We have seen in many organizations
07:23that there are exams in between.
07:25There are many challenges.
07:27If I am qualified,
07:29I will pass the exam and
07:31go to a better place.
07:33I should get this opportunity.
07:35I am here in the interior sector.
07:37I am teaching.
07:39I am qualified.
07:41Instead of my choice,
07:43I was sent to study there.
07:45There will be many innovations.
07:47We will have to understand
07:49the problem of teachers.
07:51Why would you send your daughter
07:53to a broken school?
07:55Teachers should also understand this.
07:57But what is the point of attendance?
07:59If the government is doing
08:01something innovative
08:03in today's time,
08:05things have become
08:07like geotagging,
08:09there are many facilities.
08:11This has been applicable in the private sector
08:13for many years.
08:15Employees are working there
08:17because there is a competitive environment.
08:19But what is the situation here
08:21that they are not able to do it?
08:23This is the problem.
08:25When you don't have
08:27a job,
08:29you don't have
08:31a job for 60-62 years.
08:33This is the problem.
08:35The government
08:37We also come to office on time.
08:39If we are late,
08:41we send a message.
08:43Why did the government have to do this?
08:45Because the majority of the teachers
08:47are such
08:49that due to the distance
08:51of the school,
08:53the road is bad,
08:55they don't stay at the head office
08:57and stay somewhere else.
08:59There are many other reasons.
09:01That is why they are not able to go to school on time.
09:03There are different reasons.
09:05There is no space in the school.
09:07There is no electricity.
09:09That is why they are late.
09:11But many teachers
09:13work on time.
09:15These are the teachers
09:17who have difficulty going on time.
09:19Their voice is vocal.
09:21That is why they are keeping their word.
09:23I know many teachers
09:25who work honestly.
09:27They go on time and teach.
09:29But this is the opposite.
09:31Both things should be looked at.
09:33You should tell us
09:35what the problem is.
09:37The government should also look at
09:39the teachers.
09:41We should do our primary work.
09:43Both things should be looked at.
09:45And some new innovations
09:47should be brought.
09:49To improve the quality of education.
09:51In short,
09:53this issue is not stopping.
09:55The teachers are on time.
09:57The government is not ready to accept
09:59their mistakes and demands.
10:01But the truth is
10:03that even today,
10:05the majority of the schools
10:07have not been able
10:09to get basic facilities.
10:11This is a big reason
10:13for being late.
10:15This is a big reason
10:17for the lack of teachers.
10:19On the other hand,
10:21there are many teachers
10:23who do not want to go.
10:25They are not screened.
10:27They do not have a competitive environment.
10:29Sometimes,
10:31the feeling of security
10:33makes you feel
10:35that
10:37if you are
10:39punctual
10:41and you have to attend,
10:43then your previous schedule
10:45will be ruined.
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