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'The Northman' Interviews With Alexander Skarsgård & Robert Eggers
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09/07/2024
From Robert Eggers and Alexander Skarsgård comes the brutal Viking epic, “The Northman,” and CinemaBlend’s own Eric Eisenberg got the chance to dive into the nitty-gritty of the project with its creators and star.
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I do feel compelled to ask, have you ever had the debate with your brother Bill about
00:05
Randall Flagg versus Pennywise?
00:07
We have not, no.
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Well, I mean, where do you stand?
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You must choose between kindness for your kin or hate for your enemies.
00:21
When it came to the Northmen, did you go out to make a Viking movie and then the
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legend of Amleth came to you?
00:28
Or was it a matter of you knowing that you wanted to tell this legend in this backdrop?
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No, no.
00:33
I had a lunch with Alexander Skarsgård and we shook hands saying that we would make a
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Viking movie together.
00:39
And then I came across Amleth, which inspired Shakespeare's Hamlet and realized this is
00:45
perfect because I have a story that everybody knows so I can make like a movie for a big
00:50
audience and not lose them while still like sharing with an audience what I love about
00:55
Viking mythology and culture in a way that you can't usually go so deep and detailed
00:59
in that stuff in a movie this size.
01:01
I brought it to the conversation, but not intentionally.
01:04
As I had about four or five years prior to that fated lunch that we had, Rob and I, I
01:13
teamed up with Lars Knudsen, the producer who ultimately produced the movie with us
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and with the intention of making a big epic Viking movie based on the Icelandic saga,
01:25
something that was historically accurate with a goal of trying to kind of capture the essence
01:30
of the Vikings.
01:31
And when Rob and I met, it turned out that he had just returned from Iceland and was
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fired up and excited about Icelandic culture and Norse mythology.
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And we started talking and then I mentioned that I was actually trying to develop a Viking
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project, but hadn't quite nailed down which saga to base it on.
01:54
But we started kind of just like bouncing around ideas and that became the genesis of
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the Northmen.
02:01
I will avenge you, father.
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I will save you, mother.
02:05
I will kill you, Fjallraven.
02:07
Well, I mean, how much knowledge about that era did you have coming in and how much did
02:12
you learn through the process of making the film?
02:13
I mean, I didn't have a ton of knowledge because originally I wasn't interested in
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Vikings.
02:18
I didn't like the macho stuff and the right wing misappropriation of Viking culture put
02:23
me off even more.
02:25
But when I took a trip to Iceland, the landscapes were so brutal and inspiring and epic that
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it made me pick up some Viking sagas and learn about them.
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But I had a lot of learning to do.
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And I enlisted Icelandic poet and novelist Shon to help me write this thing.
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And and then once the movie became real, we had the finest historians and archaeologists
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in the field of Viking studies working with us.
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So that was really exciting and a lot to learn.
02:54
It's interesting to think about this movie and Vikings kind of just as a prototypical
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vision of masculinity.
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And given that the definition of masculinity has changed a lot over the course of history
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and especially in what we're living through now, was that something that was in the back
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of your mind that was used as a filter for how you were telling this story?
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I think that I always try to present the worldview of the culture that I'm telling the story
03:21
about without judgment, you know, but it's it's tricky because like the ending of the
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film, it needs to be a happy ending for Alexander Skarsgård's character.
03:30
But like, I don't necessarily personally see it that way, you know, so it's a it's a tight
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rope.
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I cannot escape my fate.
03:41
This does strike me as a performance that really just requires a lot of trust in your
03:47
director.
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I mean, you are putting just so much out there.
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It's got to be exhausting just so physically and emotionally.
03:53
What was it about Robert Eggers that earned your trust and just let you know that he was
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going to make the film that you wanted to make?
04:00
Well, at the time he hadn't made The Lighthouse, he just the witch was playing in theaters
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when we met and I was very impressed by the witch and his filmmaking.
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It really felt like I was transported back in time and it was so such an immersive experience
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and it felt so authentic and rich the world he was able to create there on a very, very
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limited budget.
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So and again, those were elements I felt were essential to the Viking movie.
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I wanted it to feel authentic and not take too many creative freedoms and but actually
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stay true to the sagas and again, capture that essence.
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So and I knew that Rob would take that seriously and work really hard with Viking scholars
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on and try to shape that world.
04:57
And imagine your confidence only grew with The Lighthouse.
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So yeah, 100% again.
05:01
Over the course of development, I'm curious just where would you say the most evolution
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happened?
05:05
Would you say it happened through like from the first draft to the shooting script, through
05:09
production or in the editing room?
05:12
No, it's always in the writing for me.
05:14
Like and even, you know, this movie was the first movie I didn't have final cut on and
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I would say like, you know, maybe this changed more than my other two films did in the post
05:23
production process.
05:24
But even still, it's not changing that much and I'm shooting single camera.
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So there's, you know, only so much that can be done.
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And night by night, we will carry out my pledge of vengeance.
05:37
And this is kind of out of left field, but I am actually a huge Stephen King fan and
05:41
I loved your performance as Randall Flagg in The Stand.
05:44
Oh, thank you.
05:45
But I do feel compelled to ask, have you ever had the debate with your brother Bill about
05:50
Randall Flagg versus Pennywise?
05:52
We have not.
05:53
No.
05:55
Well, I mean, where do you stand?
05:58
Uh, I don't want to sound cocky, but probably Flagg.
06:04
Yeah.
06:04
I mean, he's kind of the devil in a way.
06:08
He has kind of a lot at his disposal.
06:10
Yeah, he's pretty powerful.
06:12
Fate has no mercy.
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