Nai Jamaat Ke Liye Sab Se Bara Challenge Kya Hoga?? Shahid Khaqan Abbasi Ne Tafseel Se Bta Diya

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00:00Then what is the biggest challenge for your political party?

00:02Talking about economy or reforming the system?

00:06Everything. If the system is right, the economy will be right.

00:10What do you mean by system?

00:12This hybrid system can't run hybrid.

00:15It's not even a hybrid, it's a mirror.

00:18Which system, which country in the world runs without a mirror?

00:21Or does it run by breaking the mirror?

00:23We are here, we can run, we can't run.

00:25What is our condition?

00:27So you have to understand that you have to run the country according to the rules.

00:32If you don't run it, it won't run.

00:34And if there is any defect in the rules, remove it.

00:37Remove all the defects.

00:39It is not possible that the responsibility is mine and the responsibility is someone else's.

00:42You have done all the experiments, from hybrid to martial law.

00:46Nothing worked.

00:48But what should we do?

00:50You think we should step back?

00:52Surrender to the politicians and tell them to do their job?

00:54No, don't step back.

00:56Everyone should do their job so that the country can move forward.

00:59Sir, you said that I am paying more taxes because no one else is paying.

01:04I am paying more electricity bills because electricity is being stolen.

01:07Yes.

01:08Wait a second.

01:09You haven't been affected by the theft of electricity yet.

01:12It will start coming.

01:14At the moment, the government is tolerating it.

01:16What is the government doing?

01:17It is dumping the company.

01:19Your cellular data is that.

01:21This has not yet had an impact on your bill.

01:24When will it come?

01:26But sir, it is coming. The bills have started increasing.

01:29Tell me one thing. I remember that it was your government.

01:32You don't remember.

01:33From 2013 to 2018.

01:34Abid Sher Ali's speeches were against the People's Party in Sindh.

01:38Speeches against KP.

01:40You don't collect taxes from different places.

01:43Do you remember?

01:44You had shut down electricity, D.I. Khan, Bannu etc.

01:47Many areas were shut down from here.

01:49The load shedding has increased.

01:51There were protests.

01:52Why? Because there is no tax.

01:53The whole of Balochistan doesn't pay taxes.

01:55Bill. Bill. Bill.

01:56Sorry. I am sorry.

01:57There is no recovery of bills in Balochistan.

02:00You don't get bills from the tribal areas.

02:02Now the problem is that everyone knows what the problem is.

02:05Why isn't there a solution?

02:06Solution. That's what I am saying.

02:08You have also talked about privatization discourse.

02:11Sir, you have only one solution to cellular debt.

02:15That you privatize these discourses.

02:18And there is no solution.

02:20You didn't even talk about it.

02:22Sir, distribution companies say that this is the solution.

02:25This is the solution.

02:26Otherwise, this is not the solution to shut down electricity.

02:29This is an interim measure.

02:31If there is more theft in this area,

02:33then we will supply less electricity.

02:35Then we will be saved from theft.

02:37So, you have only one solution.

02:40Privatize.

02:41This failure is in front of you.

02:43There is a discourse in your country which is privatized.

02:45There is a model.

02:46Karachi Electric.

02:47Karachi Electric.

02:48There, no one invests in cellular debt.

02:50So, after this, you will have to deregulate them.

02:54You have to set your own pricing for each disc.

02:57So that the people there can bear the burden.

02:59Now it is not possible that there is theft there and you put the burden here.

03:03Sir, but in this, you will have to make a regulatory framework.

03:06You will have to bring very good regulators,

03:08who work in the public interest,

03:10so that they cannot increase the price.

03:12See, one reason for keeping the government is that

03:14the natural monopolies,

03:16like this one of Disco,

03:17that whoever is providing electricity in the area,

03:21will become a monopolist.

03:22Because if the other person brings a wire, it will be very expensive.

03:25So, the fear is that he will produce very expensive electricity.

03:27But today, the government has produced so much expensive electricity,

03:29if there was a private sector, it would not have produced so much expensive electricity.

03:32And now the second thing is that you have competition with solar panels.

03:35That in 10-15 rupees, you can make solar on your roof.

03:38So, the private sector will reduce the rate because of that competition,

03:41until you privatize it.

03:43I will give you an example.

03:45In every place in Pakistan, there are such feeders,

03:48where 90% of the bills are not being recovered.

03:51There, you are sharing the load for 14-12 hours.

03:54That is a collective punishment.

03:56But from there, you are not taking 90% of the bill,

03:58because the people of Amla are also involved.

04:00And people are also not giving.

04:02Tax is not collected because you are the finance minister,

04:04because the people of Amla are involved.

04:06Corruption is there below.

04:07Money is made.

04:08Absolutely corruption is there.

04:09I know many cases,

04:10I know that someone was sent a bill,

04:12that is, someone was sent a tax of 1 crore or 2 crores.

04:14Sent a notice.

04:15Sent a notice.

04:16And in the end, it was settled for 2.5 lakhs or 3 lakhs.

04:19And someone took 5 lakhs from inside and settled it for 2.5 lakhs.

04:22If 2.5 lakhs have been settled, then 17.5 lakhs have been taken.

04:25Yes.

04:26So, you also know that money is made there.

04:28You know that there is corruption here.

04:30But we have stopped the dollar.

04:32But why can't we fix this?

04:33Sir, the request is that this thing should be privatized.

04:35It will be easy.

04:36We have tried every way to reduce electricity in Pakistan.

04:40We have tried everything except privatizing it.

04:42As far as the tax is concerned, sir,

04:44the tax that we collect,

04:46we have applied it only on the people who have a job.

04:49We have applied it on the middle class people

04:51who buy soap and have to pay tax.

04:53And we have applied it on manufacturing.

04:55We have exempted all agriculture.

04:57We cannot apply fixed tax on shops.

04:59What did we do?

05:00What did you do in this budget?

05:01Mr. Mifta Bhai.

05:02What was that tweet, sir?

05:04Please look into this.

05:05Please look into this.

05:07You were publicly asked, Mr. Mifta Bhai,

05:09please look into this.

05:10And you did, Mr. Mifta Bhai.

05:12Sir, my request is that when you cannot do this,

05:16do you know what they have done in exchange?

05:18They have said that 2.5% of the manufacturers

05:21will deduct the tax and give it to us.

05:23This means that either 2.5% of the manufacturers

05:25will increase the price and it will pass on.

05:27Because the manufacturers will not give it to people.

05:30I am telling you practically what the problem is at the moment.

05:33Right now, a soap seller goes to a shop.

05:37And tells the shopkeeper,

05:39if you are registered, I will deduct half of your tax

05:42and if you are not registered, I will deduct 2.5%.

05:44He says, I am registered.

05:45He says, give me your NTN number and CNIC number.

05:48He will take both the numbers and go back to his office.

05:50Then he will send it to the headquarters in Lahore or Karachi.

05:53There, it will be checked whether it is in the active tax payers list or not.

05:56Okay?

05:57This is the company that sells soap.

05:59Then he will check.

06:00Then he will tell his son, the soap seller,

06:03that yes, this Madina milk shop is registered in the tax payers list.

06:06You can deduct it in 2.5% or 5%.

06:08You have not deposited this fixed tax.

06:10And you have put this cost on the manufacturers.

06:13I mean, seriously, it is mind-bogglingly idiotic.

06:16Let me take a break.

06:18Everything is so mind-bogglingly idiotic in this country.

06:21Don't call it idiotic.

06:23It is mind-bogglingly idiotic.

06:26You are the speaker.

06:29I apologize.

06:31I take the idiotic word back. I am sorry.

06:33I apologize.

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