Sandeshkhali Incident:महिलाओं ने बताई आपबीती, रोंग
Sandeshkhali Incident: महिलाओं ने बताई आपबीती
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00:00 Before 2024 Lok Sabha elections, Supreme Court has issued a major decision.
00:05 Electrolyte bond has been declared illegal and in three weeks, the Supreme Court has asked for information
00:10 that the political parties and the SBI will have to provide information about how much money the corporate group has invested in the electrolyte bond through the electrolyte bond.
00:19 And this election, that is, it was asked for after three weeks and after four weeks, the elections will be held.
00:24 The election will be announced. So, in a way, a storm is definitely coming.
00:28 Dholat ji, senior journalist Dholat ji and Anant Mishra ji are with us.
00:32 Let's understand what is the whole matter of the electrolyte bond and how its effect, the decision of the Supreme Court, can be seen in the election.
00:40 Dholat ji is with us. Dholat ji, a storm is going to come.
00:43 No, it will have a very widespread effect and the things that the Supreme Court has said today,
00:48 seeing the upcoming Lok Sabha elections, the candidates will present their opinions in this matter.
00:54 If they suggest that this election process can be affected, then definitely they will give more space to the Supreme Court.
01:01 An attempt will be made to implement this decision after the upcoming Lok Sabha elections.
01:07 This is the possibility because this decision will have such a widespread effect.
01:11 Because you see, since the election bond scheme has been brought,
01:15 the accusation is being made continuously that there is no transparency in this.
01:20 Only the SBI has the information about who is giving the donation and how much.
01:27 And since SBI is a bank of the Saharjunik area, the government also has some information about this.
01:32 It was the accusation of the opposition that whoever is an industrialist or a corporate,
01:36 whoever is a donor to the opposition parties, the Central Agency for Inquiry comes to them and puts pressure.
01:42 Seeing this, the allegations were very important and the biggest thing is that this election bond was not in the right to inform.
01:50 Which the Supreme Court has considered very unfair that this is a violation of the freedom of expression and the right to inform.
01:57 Because of this, the way the money and corruption is getting increased, the bribery is getting increased,
02:03 all the things have been said by the Supreme Court.
02:05 And the allegations that were being made against the people who introduced the election bond,
02:12 the Supreme Court has clearly admitted that they were introduced with the wrong intention.
02:17 And their misuse is getting worse in politics.
02:20 And the political corruption is getting a lot more than this.
02:24 This scheme has been immediately cancelled.
02:29 Now it is not clear whether this decision will be implemented before the Lok Sabha elections or not.
02:36 This is a very important question today.
02:39 Absolutely important question.
02:41 And on transparency, Mr. Daulat raised a question because the political parties were also raising questions.
02:45 We will try to understand from Mr. Anand.
02:47 When Arun Jethi brought the election bond in 2018, it was said that he brought the election bond to bring transparency
02:54 so that it can be found out who has given how much donation.
02:57 But that did not happen.
02:58 Arun Jethi said that if the intention was right, then the decision was kept safe by the Supreme Court in November.
03:05 So why did he have to say that the election commission does not know this?
03:09 The election commission does not know how much the party, the businessman has given the fund.
03:15 The meaning of saying this is that if any government, any political party,
03:19 if it brings this thing under the arrangement of an election reform,
03:23 then the right of transparency, the right of RTI, the Supreme Court has raised the biggest question.
03:28 The right of information, I should have the right to know, the people of the country, the other political parties,
03:34 that which businessman has given how much donation to whom.
03:37 If the electoral bond is being given money from one number, then what is the point of hiding transparency in it?
03:42 And the biggest thing is that the election commission, which is the regulatory body,
03:45 to conduct elections in the country, if it does not have this information,
03:49 when the Supreme Court kept its decision safe, then it asked the election commission,
03:53 that you find out in three weeks, four weeks, which party, which businessman has given how much donation.
03:59 So this is a surprising thing.
04:01 If we talk about transparency, we talk about increasing the right of RTI,
04:07 and if we do not have the right to know this under the right of information,
04:10 then definitely the money that Mr. Daulat said, that the party that will have a government,
04:14 the businessman will give him a donation, and then where will the elections remain indisputable?
04:18 One had to spend 10 crores, and one did not even have 1 crore.
04:23 And the state funding is also related to this.
04:25 So a question arose that state funding should be there.
04:28 Today, if you see, there is a limit of 25 lakhs in the constitution, somewhere there is a limit of 30 lakhs.
04:33 Can any political party contest elections within the limit of 30 lakhs?
04:38 You see, we all see how much election spending is there, there are rails, there is food,
04:43 there is a lot of money, there is a lot of money, there is a lot of money.
04:48 So if the central government's intention is right, then it should not hide anything.
04:53 Hiding increases suspicion.
04:55 Now, no matter how good your thing is, it does not have transparency.
04:59 I do not know who gave how much money to the BJP Congress.
05:03 If I am giving money, I am giving it in one number,
05:06 if I get any rebate in the income tax, then what am I afraid of?
05:10 The Supreme Court has made this decision right.
05:13 This is not just a matter of a party or a government.
05:16 Today, the corruption that is increasing in the country,
05:19 the biggest reason for that is the election spending.
05:22 We talk that we are the world's largest democratic country.
05:27 Because I do not believe that the largest democratic country has 97 crore voters.
05:32 97 crore votes, we are the country with the most votes.
05:35 That's why we are the world's largest democratic country.
05:38 As long as corrupt people, as long as people in jail win elections,
05:42 this is just an electronic bomb, it is just an issue.
05:45 Today, the election commission makes us say that we are independent and impartial.
05:50 But those who are appointed in the election commission,
05:53 later they go to the Rajasthan government, they become a Rajpal.
05:56 So if I...
05:57 - A very big question has been raised here, Mr. Daulat.
06:00 But if we look at its timing,
06:02 that after 3 weeks, from 2019, how much money has been given by which corporate group,
06:09 how much money has been bought by the electronic bomb.
06:11 Before the election, if this comes to light, if it becomes public,
06:16 then how much hope can be seen?
06:18 - It has also been said in the decision that if the electronic bomb is in cash, then it should be returned.
06:22 Now this process, how much money has been bought, how to return,
06:29 so much time has been left and the most surprising thing is that the Supreme Court had kept this decision safe.
06:35 And the Supreme Court also knew very well that the Lok Sabha elections were coming.
06:40 So the way the timing of this decision has been given,
06:44 it seems that now this will be given as evidence by the government, by the election commission,
06:51 in the Supreme Court, this matter will be taken further,
06:54 that it is not possible in such a short time.
06:57 If the electronic bomb is suddenly withdrawn,
07:01 then it will be difficult for the other parties to fight the elections.
07:06 How will it be possible to arrange for them in such a short time?
07:11 So there are very big questions.
07:13 The decision is very good, but it should have come before time.
07:16 The decision seems to be that due to the coming at the crucial moment of the election,
07:20 many problems can arise and without finding a solution,
07:24 if the Supreme Court has issued an order to implement this decision and pursues it,
07:30 then definitely a very big problem can arise regarding the elections.
07:35 Now the Supreme Court has heard the decision, the electronic bomb will be withdrawn,
07:41 but what arrangement does the Supreme Court give for the upcoming elections?
07:44 Because the elections are at the forefront and all arrangements have already been made for the elections.
07:51 The Election Commission has also started its preparations, the present party has also started its preparations.
07:56 The sale of the electronic bomb has also started for the Lok Sabha elections.
08:00 So how will it move forward?
08:03 This is a very important question.
08:05 Will this decision be postponed or will it be implemented in the upcoming elections?
08:11 This is a very important question.
08:13 Anand ji, there was a report that BJP has received 10 times more donations from Congress.
08:23 The opposition has always raised the question that the electronic bomb,
08:27 which was a government bomb, has gone to Rajasthan,
08:30 the Chief Minister Yashod has also said that it was the biggest scam.
08:33 Now the Supreme Court's decision has come.
08:36 If the audience understands what the consequences of this decision will be in the upcoming elections,
08:44 and the BJP, because the elections are at the forefront,
08:47 on one hand the farmers are protesting, on the other hand this decision.
08:50 How difficult it is for the BJP?
08:52 No, Om, this is not a question of the BJP or Congress, this is a government-related issue.
08:57 And when the government took a decision, when Arun Jaitley brought it,
09:01 I said earlier that his opinion would have been right.
09:04 But what is happening to the people of a democratic country in a democratic country?
09:09 Who gave how much money to which party?
09:12 Today this is not a question of elections,
09:15 but a question is raised on the political system.
09:19 Elections are held once every five years, sometimes every two and a half years.
09:23 But small politicians go, from Delhi to Jaipur, from Jaipur to Mumbai, charter planes fly.
09:28 Who pays for these charter planes?
09:30 It must be coming from somewhere.
09:32 If it is paid in cash, then the biggest question is,
09:35 if someone is paying in cash, then why is he paying?
09:38 Paying in cash means that it is black money.
09:40 And if black money is being whitewashed through the election bond,
09:44 then the Supreme Court's decision will also be made.
09:47 The government's response should also come, the response of the political parties should also come.
09:51 And the government, which is under the jurisdiction of the Trans-Pacific Partnership,
09:55 whatever it is, today we have so much of online,
09:58 so much of computer, internet, so much of the era,
10:00 so how much time will it take to tell the election commission and the SBI
10:04 that who gave how much money to which party, how many bonds were made,
10:08 what is the arrangement for that, what is it?
10:10 If anything is transparent, if I click on an online,
10:14 if I click on the electoral bond, I get all the information.
10:18 Sir, this year, BJP will be...
10:20 I would like to understand, I will ask you a question,
10:22 how much effect will be seen in the election?
10:25 No, look, I believe that in such decisions, the mood of the people in the election,
10:32 suppose I like a political party,
10:37 and the decision of the electoral bond comes against it,
10:42 so will I vote against it?
10:45 But yes, in the political life, the government that talks about cleanliness,
10:49 the government that talks about transparency,
10:51 questions will arise about its work style.
10:53 If your intention is right, then why do you want to hide it?
10:57 You will hide anything, that I do not have the right,
11:00 the SBI will not tell anyone that who gave money to which party.
11:03 I do not know, because the election commission does not know.
11:06 So what is the intention behind hiding such things from the election commission?
11:11 The country wants to know, the political party may not want to know,
11:14 but I am a citizen of this country, I believe that we have the biggest democracy in the world,
11:19 so I should have the right to know it at one click.
11:22 Like the ADR report gives, you fill that my wealth is this much,
11:26 the candidate fills, my walk is this much, my wife is this much,
11:29 in 5 years I have so much wealth.
11:31 So to hide the electoral bond, I do not think that the government has any right,
11:38 and the decision given by the Supreme Court,
11:40 definitely its essence will be heard,
11:43 how much will the election affect it, today we are not in a position to say,
11:47 what will the government bring in the next election, we can talk about it in a day or two.
11:53 But it will definitely affect the public sentiment of the country.
11:57 Mr. Gawande, will the Congress attack now?
12:00 Absolutely, this is not a question of Congress,
12:03 during the time of the Congress party, the election fund was running,
12:06 they had been in power for many years, and the system was the same.
12:10 So there is not much time to speak,
12:12 only for the Congress party, this accusation of the Congress party,
12:17 that it is the government of industrialists,
12:19 that it is giving the money to the industrialists,
12:21 that it works for the benefit of the industrialists,
12:23 with that Congress can keep its words stronger.
12:26 As far as political corruption is concerned,
12:29 there is no political party behind us,
12:31 everyone is more than one,
12:33 the situation of those who say party with difference is the same,
12:36 and the situation of the Congress party is known by people from the beginning.
12:39 So, the Congress party or the opposition will definitely make a point,
12:43 but along with making a point, they will have to see their own arrangements.
12:47 If the bonds are suddenly closed,
12:50 then what will be the formula for raising funds for them?
12:54 Congress has also started crowdfunding.
12:56 But many problems will come in front of everyone,
12:59 how will the decision be implemented,
13:01 how will it affect the Lok Sabha elections,
13:04 how will it affect the general public,
13:06 the answers to all these questions will be available in the coming days.
13:09 The answers to all these questions will definitely be available in the coming days.
13:12 This is the same India where a job seeker has to give a small piece of information
13:16 while paying the income tax return,
13:18 and if he does not give, he gets a notice.
13:20 And this is the same India where through the electronic bond,
13:23 and through the corporate schemes,
13:26 how much money is sent to the political parties,
13:29 and how many helicopters are seen flying in the elections,
13:32 this is the same India.
13:34 The Supreme Court's decision is definitely welcome.
13:37 Now we will see what happens in the future in this matter.
13:41 For Patrika TV, I will take your leave. Namaskar.