00:00 How do you think veganism will fare in the coming years?
00:05 Where do you see it going in the next couple of years basically?
00:09 How will the growth be?
00:10 See, there are two different trajectories and the vegan movement will follow one of
00:22 them or be situated at some point in the middle of them.
00:32 The first trajectory is the way it is currently going.
00:37 It will remain a foreign concept, a thing for the rich, a fad for the elite.
00:53 That's how the general public takes it because I am in touch with the common populations
00:59 and dealing with people on an everyday basis is what I do.
01:03 So I know how they look at veganism.
01:06 That's one possibility.
01:08 The other possibility is you ask yourself again and again, what is it that made India
01:15 vegetarian and the same forces that made India vegetarian will make India vegan as well.
01:24 You will have to respect those forces.
01:27 You will have to channelize those forces in your favour because veganism is nothing but
01:35 the logical culmination of vegetarianism.
01:39 Where does vegetarianism come from?
01:43 The feeling that I will not kill the animal, I don't want to harm the animal.
01:48 That same feeling finds its final expression in veganism.
01:59 When I say killing the animal is very very bad, but when I am milking the animal, that
02:06 too is bad.
02:07 Not only that, when I am milking the animal, I am preparing the grounds for its slaughter.
02:17 So you will have to extend vegetarianism into veganism.
02:21 Instead of that I often find that vegans take vegetarianism as some kind of adversary.
02:29 There is no vegetarianism.
02:31 In fact it's a very strange thing.
02:34 I have found, I don't know whether it's a subconscious thing or what, but vegans often
02:40 take vegetarians as bigger adversaries compared to even meat eaters.
02:49 You see meat eaters, we can probably talk to them, but vegetarians, they are horrible.
02:59 It is a problem, huge problem.
03:03 I repeat, veganism will have to be taken as the pinnacle of vegetarianism.
03:12 Vegetarianism is not an enemy.
03:14 You could say vegetarianism is a work in process and veganism is the final output.
03:21 When you go to the people and talk in this language and explain the concept like this,
03:26 then they will understand.
03:30 So Indianizing veganism should be the motto.
03:32 Indianizing and spiritualizing.
03:33 Right.
03:34 It's very important.
03:35 It's very important.
03:36 It's very important.
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