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00:57 Palestinians have to survive on two pieces of bread, while the water is running out.
01:02 The Palestinian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has tweeted, where they are officially saying,
01:07 their power system is destroyed, and doctors have to treat their patients in mobile lights.
01:13 The UN, which is sitting quietly in a squat and only begging, can only plead, can only
01:19 make requests, what is it saying itself, what information it is passing on through its Twitter
01:25 account, it says, there is no water, there is no food, there is no life, these are children,
01:35 shame on you, what did we do wrong.
01:37 So they can only embarrass themselves on social media, but they can't do anything.
01:45 Hear their voices.
01:46 This is the hashtag, which is being used by the United Nations, the Palestinian branch,
01:56 on their Twitter account.
01:59 What does the UN say about the Palestinians themselves?
02:02 If we look at something that is different, the bombings of the Israeli army and their
02:09 aggression, it is the use of social media.
02:12 Human rights activists, in general, the perception is different, because the Western media is
02:19 controlled, the governments are on one side, the people are on the other side, but the social
02:25 media is very important, how the ground reporting was done, and the real visuals were sent from
02:31 Gaza, which the mainstream media is not showing.
02:34 So instead of controlling the social media, if it is to be used as a weapon, then you
02:41 can learn from the Palestinians and their grievances in Gaza.
02:46 Dr. Malia Al-Lukati is with us in the program.
02:49 The situation in Gaza at the time, the failure of the entire humanity, the entire Muslim world,
02:58 that it has been 29 days, this bombing could not be stopped, and genocide is now officially
03:05 being understood, whether anyone believes it or not.
03:08 Dr. Sahiba, this is 2023, we have read in books, we have read in history, that when
03:15 the innocent were killed, we used to wonder how this happens, whether the world was blind,
03:21 deaf, deaf, how did this happen before, that so many people were killed.
03:29 This time we are seeing this, the world has failed Gazans.
03:36 First of all, I would say that the situation in Gaza is really shameful for the whole world,
03:43 and especially for those countries who have the power to stop the war.
03:50 And in this regard, I would also say that the embassy attempts that we have seen in the
03:56 past few weeks have been unsuccessful so far.
03:59 But this does not mean that the embassy attempts have been over.
04:03 But the problem is, I would say the biggest problem, there are many problems, the biggest
04:09 problem is that America is still against ceasefire.
04:15 Although their foreign minister, Antony Blinken, is in the region at the moment, and reports
04:23 say that they have tried to prepare the Israeli Prime Minister for a pause in fighting, that
04:31 is, a humanitarian pause.
04:33 It is not a ceasefire, it is just that for a while, the firing should end so that humanitarian
04:42 aid can go to Gaza.
04:45 So far, America's position is the same, there has been no major shift in it, and until there
04:52 is no major change in America's position, and there will not be so much pressure on them
04:59 to change their position, this war will continue.
05:04 And it is a pity that at the moment Israel and America are on one side and the whole world
05:10 is on the other side, almost the whole world, except I think one or two countries, the UK
05:15 and a few European countries.
05:17 The rest you are seeing, there are demonstrations all over the world, there are protests, there
05:23 are demonstrations in the streets, and different governments, I would say the whole world, have
05:30 said in the General Assembly resolution that there should be a ceasefire.
05:36 121 countries out of 193 have said that we need a ceasefire and immediately.
05:44 So I think that this success of the efforts depends on whether the world opinion is so
05:52 much pressure on America, and then how America prepares Israel, puts pressure.
06:00 On the one hand, America is saying that its officials say that we want the civilians who
06:07 are going to go, not to be in such a situation and not to be spoiled.
06:13 On the other hand, they are sending weapons, in fact, they have also announced a very large
06:18 aid package for Israel.
06:20 So this is absolutely, I will say this in double speech.
06:23 But Doctor, you have talked about the role of America, there is also a strong presence
06:27 of Muslim countries, if you look at their economic context, they also have a very strong
06:34 leverage.
06:35 The effective role that the Muslim world should have played, is it measuring up to the expectations
06:41 or is there a weakness in it?
06:44 I think we should go to reality.
06:50 We can blame the whole world, but Israel only listens to one country, it does not listen
06:55 to Arab countries, it only listens to America.
06:58 And I think that is why the focus should be on how much pressure can be put on America,
07:04 and that too under the world opinion and other countries.
07:09 I think that these diplomatic activities are going on, efforts are being made to somehow
07:16 remove America from the position in which it is still there.
07:21 And that is blind support for Israel.
07:26 As far as the Arab countries are concerned, the resolution was passed because of them
07:31 in the United Nations.
07:33 And secondly, we should go to reality.
07:39 To the extent that I think they can do it, they are doing it, but we have to see whether
07:46 this fight does not turn into a regional conflict, that is, it does not spread in the region.
07:52 My next question to you was, do you think that it will remain limited in this region
07:58 or is it spreading?
08:01 Look, yesterday, when Hezbollah's leader gave a speech, many people thought that he
08:08 would make some kind of declaration that he is joining the war.
08:14 This did not happen.
08:16 So it seems that no one wants this war to spread further.
08:21 But there is still a danger of it.
08:24 Not wanting to do it, it can happen because when there is an escalation, it does not remain
08:32 under the control of anyone.
08:34 There is also uncontrolled escalation.
08:36 So countries may not want it.
08:38 But there is still fear, danger and risk.
08:41 The longer this Israeli war continues in Gaza, the greater the risk that it will spread
08:49 in the region and then you know that it will have a very far-reaching impact not only on
08:55 the region but on the whole world.
08:57 And on the internal elections of many countries, in America, you see, in these countries, it
09:02 will affect.
09:03 The UN, their leaders are also almost begging, requesting, their various agencies are also
09:11 looking at the humanitarian disaster in the region.
09:14 They also have a very demanding language.
09:17 So after this conflict, after this matter, we understand that the UN has a formal role
09:24 or not.
09:25 How will you define the UN after this?
09:30 The ability of the UN to do anything depends on the countries that are members of the Security
09:40 Council.
09:41 The United Nations cannot do anything separately, except for what you just mentioned, declarations,
09:48 appeals.
09:49 And second, do not forget that they are on the ground in Gaza at the moment.
09:54 The United Nations Welfare Agency is on the ground for the Palestinian refugees.
10:00 In fact, many of their staff members have been martyred.
10:05 So you cannot say that they have no role at all.
10:09 But the role that is needed is that of the war.
10:13 It is not in the hands of the Secretary General.
10:16 It is in the hands of the Security Council members.
10:19 So when we say that the UN has failed, then this is wrong, it is not right.
10:24 We should say that the Security Council members did not let anything happen or were obstacles
10:32 that a resolution came or a war should start.
10:37 So I think we should be clear about this.
10:40 Because everyone here always has this narrative that the UN is as strong and weak as its members
10:49 want.
10:50 And the most powerful members of the Security Council are the five permanent members.
10:57 If there is no agreement on any kind of war, then you can see that paralysis occurs.
11:06 That is, the Security Council goes into deadlock.
11:09 And that is what happened.
11:10 Now we have to see if there will be another resolution in the next few days or if there
11:15 will be a major push.
11:17 Because this month China is the President of the Security Council for this month, for November.
11:26 So we have to see what situation develops.
11:30 But what has happened so far, I think America is responsible for it.
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