'Spider-Verse's' Phil Lord And Chris Miller Explain How Inclusivity Makes Their Movie, And One Specific Character, Better

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00:00 You know in throughout the movie people are asking each other to listen

00:05 Right like four or five different times so it felt like a miracle of purpose, right?

00:11 and it's all about parenting and the developing relationships between

00:14 Children and parents and how they both need to evolve together and grow up together

00:19 Right and also like about leadership, right?

00:22 That like Miguel is leading this big group and some of that leadership means like, you know

00:29 Leadership used to mean laying down the law, right?

00:32 But you know, but when like one of the things we've discovered as filmmakers is that filmmaking is really about listening

00:38 It's not about telling and and it means you watch a movie and you listen to the movie with your body

00:44 You listen to the crew members. You're not if you want to

00:48 Direct or produce a film because you like being in charge

00:51 Definitely get another job

00:56 I'll tell you a quick story about that, which is that you know in an early version of the movie with

01:01 Pavitra's talk up was very different and a number of Indian Indian American

01:07 Indian Canadian Canadian

01:09 animators

01:12 Okay, like wrote us an email saying like we think

01:14 Pav can be better and more interesting

01:17 Just cooler and cooler. And so we we like had a zoom with them and like okay, tell us what you think

01:24 I mean obviously, you know, it would be great to know like how we can how we can make him better and they sort of

01:29 It laid out how they wanted him to be cooler basically. And so we got together a

01:34 group of

01:36 Indian Indian American writers for a roundtable and we're like, how can we make this guy more aspirational more like?

01:43 Like a real like kid in Bombay today

01:46 and and out of that came a whole different version of his intro and opening and

01:53 And he became so much better and everyone was so much happier and the fact that you can like listen to your teammates

02:00 and and help make something better and more authentic and more interesting and more fun and he became like he became a real

02:09 Favorite it transformed this sequence. So that's the thing that like you could see that email as a speed bump, right?

02:14 that's just sort of like an obstacle or you can see it as an opportunity for the movie to get better and and

02:22 Right, so so and it really did like it turned a sequence that people enjoyed

02:29 Into a sequence that people loved and not just Indian people but everyone

02:35 And and that's the thing about you know, this is we're getting a bit off topic. But the thing about like

02:41 Inclusivity is that it is good for the audience. It's good for the film

02:47 It makes the movie more entertaining for everyone right for everyone

02:53 and that's and we often say that like people make the punitive case or like de I like

02:59 They need to make the affirmative case, which is like how much better everything gets

03:04 Yeah, right exactly. Well, and it's an incredible credit to both of you guys that that's your that's your creative process

03:10 Is that you always are thank you for sharing that it's cool

03:12 - Of course.

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