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Stefan Molyneux

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Transcript

00:00:00 Welcome to your Friday Night Live.

00:00:01 Oh, is it the 22nd of September already?

00:00:05 So this is Friday.

00:00:08 What is it on Sunday?

00:00:12 What is it on Sunday?

00:00:17 It's my birthday month!

00:00:20 Yes, it's my birthday.

00:00:21 I will be doing a show at 11 o'clock,

00:00:23 maybe just for an hour or so on my birthday.

00:00:25 I had a very nice day.

00:00:26 I hope your day was nice as well.

00:00:28 I got up, had a nice coffee with my wife this morning,

00:00:31 got up a little earlier, and then I did some work.

00:00:36 I did, well, I mean, yes, I did a couple of shows

00:00:40 answering questions from freedomain.locals.com.

00:00:44 I did a walk in the woods,

00:00:45 and then it was just so nice out,

00:00:47 I sat outside and recorded some more,

00:00:49 and I did a little show with my daughter

00:00:51 where we played some ball to skate

00:00:53 and had some fun and made some jokes,

00:00:55 so I hope that you'll check that out.

00:00:57 I worked with The Fine James and The Fine Jared

00:00:59 on the Truth About the Wild West,

00:01:02 which is available right here,

00:01:04 freedomain.locals.com for subscribers.

00:01:07 It is really cool.

00:01:08 We have video for one of my presentations,

00:01:11 so I hope that you will enjoy that.

00:01:13 I really enjoyed doing that one.

00:01:15 It's been one of my favorite presentations for a while,

00:01:17 so I hope you'll check that out, freedomain.locals.com,

00:01:20 and you can, was it steftacular?

00:01:23 Oh, and then this afternoon,

00:01:24 some friends came over from friends of my daughter's

00:01:28 that we've known, and ours too,

00:01:29 that we've known for many years.

00:01:31 We vacationed together.

00:01:32 We've been all over the world,

00:01:34 and they came by, and I got the latest on

00:01:37 On the View from the Young Folk.

00:01:39 It was quite exciting.

00:01:40 Will Clint Eastwood make an appearance in my birthday?

00:01:43 I don't know, maybe.

00:01:49 But it is absolutely pitch and picture perfect

00:01:54 fall weather up here in Canada at the moment.

00:01:57 It is just beautiful.

00:01:59 Oh, will Clint Eastwood make an appearance

00:02:00 for the Wild West show?

00:02:02 Well, I do a couple of accents.

00:02:04 I don't think Clint does.

00:02:05 But I remember I did create a character once

00:02:11 after I ate too much Indian food called Clench Eastwood.

00:02:15 Clench Eastwood.

00:02:16 (whistles)

00:02:19 (laughs)

00:02:21 Clench Eastwood almost didn't make it

00:02:22 in from the parking lot, let me tell you.

00:02:25 Man, it was tough.

00:02:26 It was tough.

00:02:27 The legend of Josie wailing on the toilet.

00:02:32 Yeah, fall is beautiful.

00:02:36 Will you get any happy birthday wishes from celebrities?

00:02:39 I think I will not.

00:02:44 I have been liberated from responsibility for the world

00:02:47 by an utter lack of companionship.

00:02:50 Now, I had an interesting question.

00:02:52 And fine, we can get to your stuff later,

00:02:55 but what about me and my stuff?

00:02:57 It's always about you, you, you.

00:02:59 We're just kidding.

00:02:59 So I have a question that I was mulling over.

00:03:03 Now, I, let's hope Hillary Clinton

00:03:08 doesn't call me for my birthday.

00:03:10 The truth about the Wild West image.

00:03:12 Yes, thank you for the person

00:03:13 who came up with the thumbnail.

00:03:14 It's genius.

00:03:16 So I try to evaluate myself

00:03:22 according to Babylonian Christian standards.

00:03:26 Now, I mean, I try to look at some of my

00:03:29 sort of strengths and weaknesses.

00:03:31 Now, tell me what you think.

00:03:34 Somebody says, I would love to stay and listen,

00:03:36 but my boyfriend is making me go for a run.

00:03:37 He says, I'm fat.

00:03:39 Adam, all right, I'm five foot 10, 135.

00:03:45 Okay, I don't know what to make of that entire statement,

00:03:47 but it could be trolling.

00:03:48 So I think I have a fair amount of charisma.

00:03:54 I generally have been likable for most of my life,

00:03:58 and I'm pretty good at talking people into things.

00:04:01 I always try to talk them into the right things

00:04:03 and use it for the power of good and all that.

00:04:06 But I definitely do, I think I have

00:04:09 a reasonable to high amount of charisma.

00:04:13 But I was sort of thinking,

00:04:14 'cause I did this show about Russell Brand

00:04:16 and all of the people that other people are standing up for,

00:04:19 and I was just wondering,

00:04:22 the difference between someone like Russell Brand

00:04:27 that people are sort of willing to go to the wall for

00:04:29 and defend and all of that,

00:04:31 and me, it's an interesting kind of difference.

00:04:33 I suppose one of the things that I'm not good at,

00:04:39 well, one of the many things I'm not good at,

00:04:41 and you guys let me know what you think,

00:04:42 I think one of the things that I may not be good at

00:04:45 is engendering loyalty.

00:04:47 I'm just curious what you guys think of that.

00:04:51 I mean, I have loyalty in friends,

00:04:53 I have loyalty, obviously, in you lovely listeners,

00:04:55 I have loyalty in my wife and so on,

00:04:57 but in general, in the public world, in the public sphere,

00:05:02 I wonder if I might not be a little bit too prickly

00:05:05 to engender that kind of professional loyalty,

00:05:08 because he has hair and you don't.

00:05:10 Oh boy, it's hair jokes.

00:05:13 Please, try not to dip too deep

00:05:15 into the well of originality, my friends,

00:05:17 because Lord knows, bald guys who went bald in their 20s

00:05:20 have not spent 40 years or 30 years listening to bald jokes.

00:05:24 I think you're more divisive,

00:05:28 but the loyalty you do have is stronger.

00:05:31 What do you mean by divisive?

00:05:34 What do you mean by divisive?

00:05:35 I don't feel divisive at all, but I'm curious.

00:05:37 I mean, I know that that's sort of sad,

00:05:39 but I'm not sure what you mean by,

00:05:41 I say this without any offense, of course,

00:05:43 I'm just curious what you mean by the word divisive.

00:05:46 Russell Brand doesn't really talk about childhood, does he?

00:05:51 I think it may be from the aversion to living universally

00:05:56 and non-hypocritically.

00:05:58 Russell Brand won't hold anyone to high standards

00:06:01 easier to keep him around.

00:06:03 Your moral realism puts people in the camps

00:06:05 of good and evil.

00:06:07 That is interesting, interesting.

00:06:09 I have, I mean, I think these are all excellent points

00:06:15 and they may well be infinitely superior to what I thought,

00:06:18 but I wonder if it's because Russell Brand

00:06:25 talks about things that people can't change.

00:06:32 And look, he does have a lot of charisma

00:06:35 and you gotta have a soft spot in your heart

00:06:38 for somebody who regularly uses the word,

00:06:40 what was it, pulse of crudeness,

00:06:44 pulse of crudeness or something like that.

00:06:45 It was like some real, and he uses a Baroque attacks

00:06:49 and all of that.

00:06:50 It was really, really good.

00:06:52 But I think that he talks about,

00:06:54 he talks about immoralities in the world

00:06:57 that you can't do anything about.

00:06:59 And I've always really tried to focus

00:07:04 on talking about evils in the world

00:07:06 that you can do something about.

00:07:08 Because boy, if there's one thing I hated,

00:07:10 that feeling of helplessness.

00:07:11 Oh, don't you just hate that feeling of helplessness

00:07:14 where you see this slow motion tsunami

00:07:16 of bad things coming your way

00:07:17 and you're kind of helpless to do anything about that.

00:07:20 Libertarians do too, and most people hate libertarians.

00:07:26 I'm not sure that libertarians talk about morals

00:07:31 that you can affect.

00:07:34 I mean, libertarians, I guess some of them

00:07:39 kind of begrudgingly talked about child abuse

00:07:41 when I was holding their feet to the fire rhetorically.

00:07:44 But once I was yeeted out of the public square,

00:07:47 it seems like they've gone right back to drugs and the Fed.

00:07:50 You talk about childhood abuse,

00:07:54 you focus on the source problems

00:07:56 whereas others focus on the symptoms.

00:07:58 There's no call to action from brand.

00:08:00 Yeah, I think that's true.

00:08:02 I think it's true.

00:08:03 One of the things that people do like,

00:08:05 and there's a big market for this,

00:08:07 I was aware of this very early on.

00:08:09 Boy, there's a big market for this.

00:08:10 Not here, 'cause we're action-oriented people, I think.

00:08:13 But there's a huge market for selling people the idea

00:08:18 that being aware of evil or being aware of immorality

00:08:25 is the same as being good.

00:08:30 So they'll turn the lights on and say,

00:08:32 oh, there's this bad thing, there's this bad thing,

00:08:33 there's this corrupt thing, there's this immoral thing.

00:08:36 And people genuinely feel, they genuinely seem to feel

00:08:41 that they become more virtuous

00:08:43 by the identification of corruption.

00:08:44 You ever seen that?

00:08:45 Well, there's this corrupt thing going on in the world.

00:08:54 Let me explain it, let me detail it, blah, blah, blah.

00:08:56 Okay, and there's like, people go, yeah, yeah,

00:08:57 except that there's this, well, you know,

00:08:59 yeah, this is bad stuff.

00:09:00 And then they feel like, oof, man,

00:09:03 I've done my moral good for the day.

00:09:04 Woo, I have smoked that deep moral bowl of virtue

00:09:09 because I have objectively identified the old immorality.

00:09:14 And it's like, ah, I don't really think that that's,

00:09:20 I don't really think that that's doing any good.

00:09:24 (laughs)

00:09:25 I really don't think that it's doing any good.

00:09:29 It's sort of like saying,

00:09:30 it's sort of like saying, well, as a doctor,

00:09:35 I've seen a lot of sick people, or I want to be a doctor,

00:09:38 I look at a lot of ill people, and so I'm a doctor.

00:09:42 Like, I remember a friend of mine,

00:09:43 I was good friends with him in junior high school.

00:09:46 I used to go to his place every day after school

00:09:48 'cause I was a latchkey kid and I wanted someplace

00:09:50 where there were people, 'cause I like people.

00:09:53 And his father was a doctor and he had one of these books,

00:09:58 'cause everyone's kind of curious about

00:10:00 what it's like to be a doctor and so on, at least I was.

00:10:02 So, and I remember his father was a doctor,

00:10:04 he had one of these books of human ailments.

00:10:08 Here are human ailments, and elephantitis,

00:10:11 and pustules, and boils, and all of that.

00:10:15 And I remember looking at that like,

00:10:17 woo, that's not very nice. (laughs)

00:10:22 I would pay good money to not have to do that for a living,

00:10:27 to be sort of armed deep in human pustules for my life.

00:10:32 But I do remember flipping through that book

00:10:34 and saying, wow, that's really, that looks unwell.

00:10:36 Boy, that looks really bad, that looks negative.

00:10:39 I'm going through Hamlet with my daughter

00:10:40 and we're talking about the scene where the,

00:10:43 spoiler, it's okay, where Claudius pours the poison

00:10:47 into the king's ear and the pustules break out

00:10:51 and sort of explain all of that, right?

00:10:54 And so looking at illness doesn't make you a doctor.

00:10:57 Here's another really sick person.

00:11:00 Oh yeah, that person looks really sick.

00:11:02 Here's another, here's a different kind of illness,

00:11:04 like me flipping through that book,

00:11:05 looking at all these pictures of ill people,

00:11:07 and diseases, and problems, and it doesn't make me a doctor.

00:11:11 I don't really understand the illness,

00:11:13 I certainly don't know how to cure it.

00:11:15 I've just turned my stomach a little bit looking at it.

00:11:18 Does that sort of make sense?

00:11:19 Like I've just looked at the evil,

00:11:19 it definitely looks bad to me, it looks negative to me.

00:11:23 Have I understood anything?

00:11:24 Do I know how to cure anything?

00:11:27 Do I know the source of anything?

00:11:30 Nope.

00:11:31 I mean, human beings are pretty good at identifying illness.

00:11:36 We have to be, right, to stay safe.

00:11:38 Human beings are pretty good at identifying illness.

00:11:41 We've been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years,

00:11:44 but until pretty much the 20th century,

00:11:47 you are healthier not going to a doctor at all.

00:11:50 So I think there's this whole,

00:11:55 it's on the right, it's on the left as well,

00:11:59 there's this whole industry of,

00:12:05 look at evil, look at evil, look at evil, look at evil,

00:12:07 this is evil, this is evil, this is evil, this is evil,

00:12:10 like a conveyor belt of malfeasance and corruption

00:12:12 just whipping past you, whipping past,

00:12:14 next thing, next thing, bad, bad, bad.

00:12:17 And people looking at all of that and saying,

00:12:21 well, I guess I'm better, I'm moral, I'm doing good,

00:12:26 'cause I've looked at this whip past ADHD conveyor belt

00:12:31 of rapid span evil for 40 years.

00:12:34 I've just been evil, evil, evil, evil, evil.

00:12:36 When I was a kid, I used to take these train rides.

00:12:45 So I was six when I went to boarding school,

00:12:47 and I used to take these train rides from London

00:12:49 to where the boarding school was.

00:12:51 And I always loved to stay awake

00:12:58 and cup my hands around the window.

00:13:02 But you couldn't see out, right, it was kind of dark,

00:13:08 because there was light inside.

00:13:09 And I would cup my hands, and I would,

00:13:11 at the age of six, I went from six to the age of eight,

00:13:13 six, seven, and eight, and I would watch intently.

00:13:17 Everyone else was passed out,

00:13:19 like all the other kids or whatever, right?

00:13:21 And I would sort of watch intently,

00:13:22 and I wrote about this in my novel, "The Future,"

00:13:26 about a kid pressing his hands against the window of a train.

00:13:32 And you'd see these little flashes of things going by,

00:13:40 houses, and you'd see people in the houses just flash,

00:13:44 and they would go by, and they'd be doing something.

00:13:47 You'd see, and often I would travel at night,

00:13:50 and you'd see like one tiny train station,

00:13:56 the train didn't even stop, maybe it was an express,

00:13:59 I guess it was an express, and it would just,

00:14:01 it would flash by, and you'd have like way too many

00:14:04 suitcases, and you'd sit, and I would come up with stories.

00:14:07 The one guy in the middle of nowhere, tiny train station,

00:14:09 one yellow pool of light, way too many suitcases.

00:14:12 What's the story behind him?

00:14:14 What's the story back there?

00:14:17 I remember seeing a couple fighting in the window.

00:14:20 What are they fighting about?

00:14:21 What's the conflict?

00:14:22 You see, and I would occasionally see like the old,

00:14:26 there's old men usually on their upstairs balconies,

00:14:30 and you knew that they were watching for the trains, right?

00:14:32 And I'd wave for them, like they couldn't see me,

00:14:34 or it was too fast, or whatever, I had light behind me.

00:14:37 Say, okay, well, wouldn't it be sad?

00:14:39 I remember even at the age of six,

00:14:40 thinking, wouldn't it be sad to end up in life

00:14:45 so alone that you look for a train to flash by in the night,

00:14:49 and that's your contact with people,

00:14:51 like those old women who go to the doctor

00:14:53 with unidentified, quote, aches and pains,

00:14:56 just so they have someone to feel their lymph nodes

00:14:59 and talk to for five minutes, right?

00:15:01 That's a sad, sad place to end up.

00:15:05 So I remember just these flashes,

00:15:08 that I would see these flashes,

00:15:10 and I used to have this when I would be hiking sometimes.

00:15:14 I would hike in this ravine near where I lived,

00:15:16 and there would be these houses back,

00:15:17 and occasionally when you'd hike along,

00:15:18 you'd see things in the houses.

00:15:19 I wasn't like staring at the houses, but you'd see stuff,

00:15:22 and you'd get this little window into people's lives,

00:15:27 which I've always been quite fascinated by,

00:15:28 and now, of course, I get to do it in "Call and Shows"

00:15:30 and all that sort of stuff.

00:15:32 But

00:15:33 that seeing things and think you know them,

00:15:40 seeing things and thinking that you are combating them,

00:15:44 I just, and I did some of this for sure.

00:15:47 I mean, I did some of this with "True News" and so on,

00:15:50 like here's more corruption, here's more immorality,

00:15:53 but there is just this huge market,

00:15:57 this massive market

00:15:58 for show-and-tell evil.

00:16:03 And let me just, thank you for the tips, by the way.

00:16:09 If you would like to help out and tip,

00:16:11 I would really appreciate that.

00:16:14 I'm sorry, I just need to refresh for a second here

00:16:16 because I don't seem to be getting any more text.

00:16:19 A little tough to fly without the text.

00:16:22 I also wanna make sure that we're still cooking here.

00:16:28 We have just rebooted.

00:16:31 Excellent.

00:16:32 Excellent.

00:16:34 Well, thank you, everyone.

00:16:34 Sorry for that hiccup, but we're good.

00:16:38 We're good.

00:16:39 All right, so listen, you can wait to find out later

00:16:41 what I was chatting about,

00:16:43 but it basically was this idea

00:16:44 that there's this whole industry

00:16:45 where they just give you this conveyor belt of immorality,

00:16:48 just whoosh, whoosh, whoosh,

00:16:50 goes past you like scenes out of a night train

00:16:53 flashing in the middle of nowhere,

00:16:55 that you get these scenes, and they just show,

00:16:57 this is corrupt, oh, this is corrupt,

00:16:59 oh, this is corrupt, oh, this is so corrupt,

00:17:00 and that is so corrupt,

00:17:02 and people just absorb all of this stuff,

00:17:04 and they think that they're doing some good,

00:17:06 that there's some virtue going on,

00:17:07 so that they're not just looking at illness

00:17:10 and think that they're learning how to be doctors.

00:17:13 So I won't get into any names in particular.

00:17:18 So yeah, it's wild.

00:17:24 I don't know why it is people think

00:17:26 that just looking at immorality makes you virtuous.

00:17:28 You know, we're not going to try

00:17:32 and take the ring to Mount Doom.

00:17:35 What we're gonna do, though,

00:17:36 is we're gonna look at some Nazgul,

00:17:40 maybe a couple of orcs, and yeah, Sauron's Eye.

00:17:45 We're gonna show you Sauron's Eye

00:17:47 is darting across the sky, man.

00:17:49 Aren't you good?

00:17:52 Hey, does anyone wanna actually, no.

00:17:53 It's just kind of funny that way, right?

00:17:58 That looking at immorality

00:18:00 just is considered to be virtuous.

00:18:07 It's something to do with childhood helplessness

00:18:10 with regards to evil,

00:18:13 that I'm gonna observe my parents, but I can't change them.

00:18:16 And I think because I gave people,

00:18:21 now look, what you can do,

00:18:23 yeah, somebody says, "Notice this all over YouTube.

00:18:27 "Channels which just document the endless doom

00:18:28 "and provide nothing to improve society."

00:18:30 Right, right.

00:18:33 So what happens in general

00:18:38 is the more you dial up opposing evil,

00:18:41 the more danger you end up in, right?

00:18:44 So you dial up evil, you end up in more danger.

00:18:46 And people, and I think justly and fairly,

00:18:48 they recoil from that, right?

00:18:50 You got a life to live, you got kids to raise,

00:18:53 and you can't be going down in a sheet of holy glory

00:18:58 into the abyss, right?

00:18:59 And we all have to make our compromises,

00:19:02 and that's fine, I don't in particular mind that.

00:19:07 But I think that what I did though,

00:19:10 which I suppose is absolutely unforgivable,

00:19:15 by friends, right, the enemies, blah, blah, blah.

00:19:17 But what was absolutely unforgivable was I said,

00:19:20 here's how to combat evil safely.

00:19:29 Here's how to combat evil safely.

00:19:32 You talk to your parents, you talk to your family,

00:19:35 you promote virtue, you don't put up with vice,

00:19:39 and the against me argument and peaceful parenting

00:19:41 and voluntary family, I'm like, hey, you know what?

00:19:45 You don't have to go to the wall to fight bad stuff.

00:19:50 You can do it in your own life.

00:19:52 You don't need to be staring at the doom porn

00:19:56 of the Federal Reserve's balance sheet

00:19:57 and going, damn, we're fucked, right?

00:20:01 I'm like, no, you can do it right now, right here,

00:20:07 boom, you can do it, and you can stop listening to me,

00:20:10 make the phone calls, go meet with the people,

00:20:13 go talk to the people, go look and deal

00:20:15 with the immorality that you have experienced

00:20:17 in your own life.

00:20:19 Nope, I'd rather get back to Dan Bongino,

00:20:24 Bongino talking about the DOJ.

00:20:27 (chuckles)

00:20:29 Oh, boy.

00:20:32 I prefer to stare at an immorality

00:20:35 you can't do anything about rather than actually have words

00:20:39 with immoral people I can do something about, that.

00:20:42 Does this tell me if this makes sense?

00:20:49 Does this make sense?

00:20:50 So Russell Brand, with his charisma and his good humor

00:20:56 and his low-rent, skeevy Jesus persona

00:21:01 is telling you all these things

00:21:03 that you can get outraged about, right?

00:21:05 You can get outraged about this, that, and the other

00:21:09 that he's talking about, boy, that's outrageous.

00:21:11 Yeah, crazy man, whoa, yeah, that stuff's crazy, right?

00:21:15 (chuckles)

00:21:18 And then you go about your day

00:21:19 and maybe you feel like a better person,

00:21:21 feel like a good person.

00:21:24 Yes, makes sense, it's all talk with these people,

00:21:27 those people I'm tired of it, I checked out,

00:21:28 I'm just here, free domain,

00:21:29 feels like the only truth anymore.

00:21:31 Yeah, I don't know, pharmaceuticals, Ukraine,

00:21:34 Vax, Federal Reserve, foreign policy, blah, blah, blah, yeah.

00:21:38 Yeah.

00:21:41 Russell Brand maybe said, "Don't get the vaccine."

00:21:47 That's pragmatic.

00:21:52 Does that combat immorality, really, does it?

00:21:56 Does it?

00:22:00 You know, I talked to, I don't know,

00:22:06 it was about a year ago, I talked to a younger person.

00:22:09 I just love dropping into conversations

00:22:12 in the world as a whole,

00:22:12 so I was talking to this younger person

00:22:14 and she was saying that she lost like 10 friends

00:22:18 over the Vax, right?

00:22:21 And, you know, families have been split up,

00:22:24 wrecked, destroyed, set against each other

00:22:27 on all of this stuff, right?

00:22:28 You remember when I was complained

00:22:34 that I was breaking up families?

00:22:36 Well.

00:22:39 Someone says, "Do you think this arcs over

00:22:44 "into people's consumption of mainstream media

00:22:46 "and their aversion to talk about anything meaningful?"

00:22:49 Aversion to talk about anything meaningful.

00:22:51 Well, the opposite of meaning is moral vanity, right?

00:23:01 It's a moral vanity.

00:23:02 I wish conservatives organized like the left does.

00:23:07 Sorry, with all due respect, are you crazy?

00:23:12 Instead it's Facebook complaining.

00:23:17 You wish conservatives organized like the left does.

00:23:22 A quick question, what happens when conservatives organize

00:23:27 as a whole?

00:23:28 What happens when they try to have meaningful conferences

00:23:31 to effect change or they protested the streets?

00:23:34 I mean, just out of curiosity,

00:23:35 what happens when conservatives organize?

00:23:39 Just out of curiosity.

00:23:40 (silence)

00:23:42 The left shout them down.

00:23:48 Shouting would be a significant and civilized improvement.

00:23:52 Yeah, so you can't compare the left and the right.

00:23:57 I mean, it's just unfair.

00:23:59 Yeah, I mean, sorry, I don't wanna talk politics,

00:24:03 but it don't, you know, people are like,

00:24:06 oh, the Republicans are so useless.

00:24:10 It's like, try being useful, see what happens.

00:24:12 You know, just try being useful and effective,

00:24:14 see what happens, right?

00:24:15 So, yeah, so why can people not process depth?

00:24:22 Why can people not process depth in conversations?

00:24:29 Because depth would reveal their moral vanity.

00:24:35 So moral vanity is when you wanna feel good

00:24:38 without the risk of actually doing good.

00:24:39 You wanna feel like you're doing good

00:24:41 without the risk of actually doing good, right?

00:24:45 So if you start to have deep conversations

00:24:51 about good and evil,

00:24:52 then I have no other ideas.

00:24:58 Just talking about all the things that you can do

00:25:03 to combat immorality and promote virtue in your own life.

00:25:06 Oh, yeah, you can go and do good in your own life.

00:25:14 Oh, yes, you did promise a donation of, at 40 likes.

00:25:19 Thank you very much, I appreciate that.

00:25:20 That's very kind.

00:25:21 And if you're finding this helpful,

00:25:22 I always try to do my best,

00:25:25 but there's a certain amount of eruption

00:25:27 that is beyond my control, and donations help.

00:25:30 People respond to incentives,

00:25:33 I'm an economic being like everyone else.

00:25:34 So I always try and do my best,

00:25:36 but donations can help tip it over the edge.

00:25:40 So, okay, do you know people in your life

00:25:44 who have been immoral or are currently immoral?

00:25:49 Of course you do, yeah, absolutely, okay.

00:25:55 And do you talk to them about their immorality?

00:26:01 With consequences, talking to people without consequences

00:26:04 is (mimics babbling)

00:26:06 It's baby babble, it's nonsense words.

00:26:08 It's syllable slashing for no particular purpose, right?

00:26:11 Okay, so are there people in your life

00:26:14 who are or were immoral?

00:26:16 Whether you've talked to them or not,

00:26:20 and they are or were immoral,

00:26:22 they have not made restitution or amends,

00:26:24 are they still in your life?

00:26:25 (mouse clicking)

00:26:28 Yeah, so it's a scattering, yes and no, yeah.

00:26:37 Some are, more aren't.

00:26:44 I pay taxes, makes me feel immoral.

00:26:48 What is done under,

00:26:52 well, what is done under the law

00:26:54 is not up to your choice, right?

00:26:56 Keeping the arms length.

00:26:57 I mean, it's funny, I mean,

00:27:06 this is a question I asked myself back in the day,

00:27:09 and I mean, I still ask myself,

00:27:10 can I expect others to take morality

00:27:15 more seriously than I do?

00:27:16 Can I expect other people to take morality

00:27:22 more seriously than I do?

00:27:23 I don't think so, right?

00:27:25 I don't think so.

00:27:25 So if I have immoral people,

00:27:29 unrepentant immoral people in my life,

00:27:31 then I don't take morality that seriously.

00:27:35 I don't.

00:27:38 I don't.

00:27:43 Now, that's fine, but let's not pretend

00:27:47 that it is something other than what it is.

00:27:52 So for a lot of people, and listen,

00:27:54 I put myself in this category for many, many years,

00:27:57 so this is not any kind of superiority thing,

00:27:59 and with less excuse than most,

00:28:03 I was in this category for many years.

00:28:05 Morality was like a fun, puzzle,

00:28:10 challenging hobby, right?

00:28:13 It was interesting, I was fascinated by it,

00:28:17 non-aggression principle.

00:28:19 I was starting to play around with universal ethics

00:28:21 even before UPB, and I loved studying ethical theories,

00:28:24 and boy, it was just 3D chess,

00:28:27 fun, challenging, intellectual hobby.

00:28:30 Boy, if I could have turned it into a career

00:28:32 back in the day, I would have,

00:28:33 but man, morality was really interesting and fun.

00:28:37 But I'll tell you one thing, it wasn't.

00:28:42 It wasn't serious.

00:28:47 It wasn't serious.

00:28:50 Serious is when you start making

00:28:52 actual decisions based upon it.

00:28:53 Enough studying, start doing.

00:28:58 Enough studying, start doing.

00:29:03 Now doing is in your life.

00:29:11 Morality is in your life.

00:29:15 So I was like, wow, you know, child abuses are immoral.

00:29:20 So I gotta talk to them.

00:29:24 And if they won't change, if they won't reform,

00:29:30 then I have unrepentant evildoers in my environment.

00:29:37 Well, that's fine, you see,

00:29:41 because I've gotta have some place to go come Christmas.

00:29:44 Right?

00:29:48 And if I don't take morality,

00:29:52 if I study morality and consider it

00:29:54 one of the most important things in my life,

00:29:55 but I don't take it seriously enough to act on,

00:29:58 then I'm actually discrediting morality.

00:30:07 So, I mean, that's just honesty, right?

00:30:09 If you like studying ethics and virtue and UPB

00:30:13 and all of that, but you don't wanna put it

00:30:14 in practice in your life, then just say,

00:30:17 yeah, I don't take morality seriously,

00:30:19 but I sure love puzzling around and thinking about it

00:30:23 and arguing about it and debating about it.

00:30:26 It's a fun puzzle for me, but I mean,

00:30:31 I don't take it any more seriously

00:30:32 than a rousing game of Catan or Roblox or,

00:30:36 oh God, what's that one where you spin the shapes

00:30:40 in the Tetris, right?

00:30:44 It's Sudoku.

00:30:48 With syllogism.

00:30:52 It's something I think about, something I read about,

00:30:56 something I write about, something I argue about,

00:30:58 but it's not something I actually live at all.

00:31:02 Do you know what a huge relief it is to people in your life

00:31:12 that you don't take morality seriously.

00:31:17 I took it seriously when it came to my birthday yesterday.

00:31:24 I spent it alone even though I was angry, I was alone.

00:31:27 ♪ Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you ♪

00:31:35 ♪ Happy birthday dear SK, happy birthday to you ♪

00:31:41 ♪ I'm sorry that you spent your birthday alone ♪

00:31:43 If it's any consolation,

00:31:44 I've spent some pretty important days on my own.

00:31:46 And this is always the big question.

00:31:51 It's the big question, please, yeah,

00:31:52 please wish him a happy birthday.

00:31:54 Happy birthday, man, please wish him a happy birthday

00:31:56 and I hope that next birthday is less solitary.

00:32:01 But this is sort of the big question, right?

00:32:03 The big question is, do I want to be isolated

00:32:09 with other people or alone with myself?

00:32:12 It's always the big question, quantity over quality.

00:32:21 I prefer time alone to time faking.

00:32:28 See, to me, time faking, where you're smiling

00:32:32 and glad handling and talking about nonsense and sports

00:32:36 and weather and sometimes politics

00:32:38 and all that sort of unactual trash,

00:32:41 to me, I would much rather be alone than faking.

00:32:44 Tell me, when I'm alone, I don't have to fake.

00:32:53 I don't know, maybe fake an orgasm or two,

00:32:56 but for the most part, I don't have to fake.

00:32:58 You know, just shake up the ready weapon, hit the ceiling.

00:33:03 Right, so I just don't have to fake anything.

00:33:05 I don't have to fake anything.

00:33:07 So let me get a sense of the age range here.

00:33:10 Give me the decades, 20s, 30s, 40s,

00:33:12 like what decades are you guys in?

00:33:14 20s, mid 40s, 30s, early, okay, 50s, late 30s, 40s, 20s,

00:33:21 46 on the 24th, well that's a fine day to have a birthday.

00:33:26 Right, 39, 20, late 20s, 30s, okay, all right.

00:33:29 You sound like an auctioneer, that's right.

00:33:35 Or you know, if I'm further away, an auctioneer.

00:33:38 Oh yes, and you feel the dad joke goodness

00:33:42 flowing through your veins.

00:33:43 All right, yeah, you felt that deep inside, that's right.

00:33:52 All right.

00:33:55 One to 10, one to 10, one to 10.

00:34:04 Do you think about how much time you have left,

00:34:09 what you have to do, and that you're gonna fucking die?

00:34:13 One to 10.

00:34:14 Seven, 10, two, three, 10, nine, yeah, yeah.

00:34:22 All the time?

00:34:24 Okay, well you don't want death eventually

00:34:26 to be paralysis in the present, right?

00:34:28 So, look at that, I have so much passion,

00:34:31 I have spittle on my screen.

00:34:33 You've lived 11,000 out of 30,000 days?

00:34:35 Yeah.

00:34:38 I mean, listen, I don't mind getting older at all.

00:34:42 And I've worked pretty hard to stay healthy

00:34:44 and I can still do an hour of pickleball

00:34:47 and whatever it is, right?

00:34:47 So, not too bad, not too bad.

00:34:51 But I'll tell you this, man.

00:34:52 Steph bought no likey to waste time.

00:34:58 Steph bought no likey to waste time anymore.

00:35:03 Now, I've not been a huge time waster in my life.

00:35:06 I mean, I've wasted obviously some and that's fine.

00:35:08 You gotta rest and you gotta recharge and all of that.

00:35:10 But, man, I'll tell ya.

00:35:14 I have 57, if I'm lucky, I get to 87, right?

00:35:20 That's a good age, that's average-ish and all of that, right?

00:35:24 I mean, I'm post-cancer so odds are a little lower,

00:35:27 but all right, so I got 57, 67, 77, 87, right?

00:35:32 So, 57 to 67, 10 years, 67 to 77, 20 years,

00:35:40 77 to 87, 30 years.

00:35:43 And it ain't like the past.

00:35:48 Like, 77 ain't like 27, obviously, right?

00:35:51 You don't know what issues, what health,

00:35:54 you know, you hear about.

00:35:55 I remember Scott Adams saying many years ago

00:35:57 that something about, like he was talking about

00:35:59 this old guy, it's like, "Yeah, nobody gets into the 70s

00:36:01 "without health issues," and so on.

00:36:02 And he had this what, spasmodic dysphonia

00:36:05 or something like that, but he couldn't talk

00:36:06 to the point where he didn't even wanna live anymore.

00:36:08 So, I don't know.

00:36:13 I don't know what's gonna happen.

00:36:15 I don't know how much energetic,

00:36:18 productive time I have left.

00:36:20 But I sure know there's a lot more in the rear view

00:36:24 than there is in the headlights, right?

00:36:26 A lot more in the rear view than there is in the headlights.

00:36:29 I mean, I ain't getting to 114,

00:36:32 so there's no double in me, right?

00:36:34 There's a lot more in the rear view

00:36:35 than there is in the headlights.

00:36:37 And what's on the headlights is some seriously bumpy shit.

00:36:39 What's been in the rear view is pretty smooth.

00:36:43 Henry Kissinger is 100, you must live that long.

00:36:46 Yes, but who knows what he drinks?

00:36:47 (laughs)

00:36:48 I ain't drinking that.

00:36:50 So,

00:36:50 (sighs)

00:36:52 I don't, and I view time that I have to fake things,

00:37:03 I view time with dishonesty

00:37:07 as catastrophically hacked off the time that I have left.

00:37:14 Right, do you follow?

00:37:19 If I have to fake it,

00:37:21 that is time that is catastrophically subtracted

00:37:27 from the time I have left.

00:37:29 Does this make sense?

00:37:31 30 years is gonna fly by?

00:37:32 I don't think so, honestly, I don't think so.

00:37:35 I don't think so.

00:37:36 For me, time passes just right.

00:37:39 Right, time passes just right.

00:37:42 If you're too busy, it flies by.

00:37:44 If you're just manic and a workaholic,

00:37:46 then you look back and it's like,

00:37:47 oh my God, I was just in this hamster wheel,

00:37:49 blah, blur, right?

00:37:50 If you are not, so if you're doing too much,

00:37:54 time flies by, if you're not doing enough, time drags.

00:37:56 So to me, time goes by just fine, time goes by just fine.

00:38:00 Time goes by just fine.

00:38:03 Plus, I have a lot of markers, right?

00:38:06 Maybe I'm too busy, I don't know.

00:38:08 I mean, I'm just telling you my particular perspective.

00:38:10 So, let me tell you,

00:38:16 what percentage of your free time

00:38:21 do you have to bullshit?

00:38:22 What percentage of your free time

00:38:24 do you have to lie and fake and make small talk

00:38:27 and connect with people that you don't

00:38:28 particularly care about?

00:38:30 Zero, that's fantastic.

00:38:34 Zero, wow, amazing.

00:38:36 25, 10, 20, at work, 40%.

00:38:40 Okay, I said free time.

00:38:41 A good day, a good day.

00:38:42 Five percent.

00:38:43 (audience member speaking faintly)

00:38:47 Yeah.

00:38:48 Very little, oh, free time, zero percent.

00:38:53 Zero percent, right.

00:38:58 One tenth of that.

00:39:00 Probably five percent, usually meaningful conversations,

00:39:04 40%.

00:39:12 Five percent just holidays when visiting family, ha ha.

00:39:15 Yeah, I don't think that's funny.

00:39:18 I'm sorry about that.

00:39:19 Used to be 90%.

00:39:26 Yeah.

00:39:27 Yeah.

00:39:30 I'm alone, so it doesn't feel like a meaningful management.

00:39:35 No friends, work alone, lots of time for deep thought,

00:39:37 spiritual growth.

00:39:41 But you can only go so deep alone, right?

00:39:43 You understand a bath escape is a two-man operation.

00:39:47 You can only get, you know, people say,

00:39:50 oh, I wanna work on myself, I wanna work on myself.

00:39:53 But you can't work on yourself all the way by yourself.

00:40:01 You can't work on yourself all the way by yourself,

00:40:08 'cause sometimes you need some deep surgery

00:40:13 and you can't do it on your own, right?

00:40:15 Sometimes you need that objective view of yourself,

00:40:17 you can't do it on your own.

00:40:19 Yeah, lone wolf mentality ain't it?

00:40:21 No man is an island.

00:40:22 Am I a zero, staff like in terms of faking it?

00:40:25 No, of course not.

00:40:26 (laughs)

00:40:28 Of course not.

00:40:29 I gotta tell you, I think the zero is bullshit.

00:40:31 I mean, I could be wrong.

00:40:32 I think the zero is bullshit.

00:40:36 I mean, I make small talk just about everywhere I go.

00:40:39 You know, you gotta cross a border,

00:40:40 you've gotta go and talk to people.

00:40:42 And you know, so yeah, I don't know about the zero.

00:40:46 I think people just type that stuff to sound cool,

00:40:49 but it's a little vampiric, it's a little parasitical, right?

00:40:52 'Cause oh, I don't ever, ever make small talk.

00:40:58 I don't ever inhibit myself.

00:41:00 I don't ever not tell the complete and total truth.

00:41:03 It's like, no you don't.

00:41:05 No you don't.

00:41:06 No you don't.

00:41:08 So I'm fairly low, but.

00:41:12 My wife has told me incredibly revealing things

00:41:18 about myself, so glad to have her.

00:41:20 Yeah, you need, it's like saying,

00:41:23 well I'm working on my appearance,

00:41:24 but you can't really see your ass.

00:41:26 You need somebody else to see your ass, right?

00:41:28 (laughs)

00:41:33 So, I can't just, you know, flip into and out of empty mode.

00:41:38 Hollow mode, nothing mode, headpieces filled with straw,

00:41:47 alas mode, wasteland mode.

00:41:50 I can't just flip in and out of that.

00:41:52 So what happens with me is if I'm in a situation

00:42:02 where I have to dissociate from depth

00:42:05 and be helium balloon bumping atop the jagged,

00:42:10 easy, soft spikes of acceptable interactions,

00:42:15 I kinda gotta prepare for it, and then I'm doing that.

00:42:19 It's a strain, and afterwards I'm tired.

00:42:22 I'm tired.

00:42:23 Small talk is like endless mosquitoes on your jagular.

00:42:29 I'm tired, it drains me.

00:42:32 (sighs)

00:42:34 There's a recovery time for tininess, isn't there?

00:42:48 Life, time, energy, depth, virtue, humanity,

00:42:53 passion, power, boom, gone.

00:42:56 Gone.

00:42:59 (water dripping)

00:43:02 It's exhausting to be small.

00:43:09 I don't know why people think it's a relief.

00:43:14 It's exhausting, and do you know why?

00:43:17 This is why small talk is inflicted on society to drain you.

00:43:22 It's to drain you.

00:43:23 It's to exhaust you, to enervate you,

00:43:27 to disable you.

00:43:30 That's what small talk is for.

00:43:35 It's to hollow you out, to empty you out,

00:43:36 to render you inert, to defuse you.

00:43:40 (sighs)

00:43:45 Somebody says it drains me too.

00:43:46 I deal with it for 10 hours a day at work.

00:43:48 It's nearly unbearable.

00:43:50 Yeah, I just check out when people are small talking.

00:43:52 That's so true, I feel like small talk is so taxing

00:43:55 as opposed to having a deep and meaningful conversation.

00:43:57 That's invigorating, yeah.

00:43:58 Do you talk about UPB with Tim Hortons employees?

00:44:05 I don't know if that's a snarky question or not.

00:44:10 I don't know if that's a real question or not.

00:44:13 Send your recent Roman Empire episode to a friend

00:44:17 and told him about women think deeper,

00:44:19 men think further concept, he enjoyed that.

00:44:21 You're serious?

00:44:25 Do I talk about UPB with Tim Hortons employees?

00:44:29 Let's see here.

00:44:31 I think it's a serious and very valid question.

00:44:34 I mean, I'm happy to talk about that.

00:44:35 I'm just a little baffled.

00:44:37 Doesn't mean anything bad is happening.

00:44:40 I'm just a little baffled.

00:44:41 So in the lineup, do I interfere with people's ability

00:44:52 to make a living by lecturing them

00:44:54 about abstract moral philosophy?

00:44:56 I mean, have you never worked in a customer facing business?

00:45:00 I don't understand why you're asking these things.

00:45:03 Why am I, Dave, you're articulating exactly how I feel.

00:45:09 Thank you for the tip, I appreciate that.

00:45:11 Yeah, small, there's nothing wrong with small talk.

00:45:17 Absolutely, just, the problem with small talk,

00:45:20 it's when it's inflicted.

00:45:22 The problem is not being small,

00:45:24 it's when you're small because you're punished

00:45:26 for being large, that's the problem.

00:45:28 That's the problem.

00:45:31 No, I don't talk about UPB with Tim Hortons employees.

00:45:34 However, if it's not too busy and,

00:45:37 my daughter's there in the day,

00:45:43 and we're chatting and joking around as we generally do,

00:45:46 and I'll mention, oh yes, my daughter's homeschooled,

00:45:50 and we're peaceful parents, we don't use any aggression,

00:45:52 I'll definitely drop that stuff for sure.

00:45:54 Small talk is a passive aggressive

00:46:00 towards the other person,

00:46:01 subject to the boredom and insignificance.

00:46:03 Well, isn't small talk generally combined with a threat?

00:46:09 Isn't small talk generally combined with a threat?

00:46:19 Which is if you ain't small, you're toast.

00:46:23 Be small, or be toast, that's,

00:46:26 maybe I'm misunderstanding what your definition

00:46:30 of small talk is.

00:46:32 Well, small talk is not, I'd like a coffee.

00:46:35 That's not small talk.

00:46:38 Small talk is when you're stuck in a conversation,

00:46:41 and depth is frightening to you,

00:46:47 the other person, the interaction, or whatever, right?

00:46:49 What do people talk about when small talking,

00:46:59 besides the weather?

00:47:00 That's my go-to.

00:47:01 I'm sorry, have you never heard of sports?

00:47:03 Oh my God.

00:47:05 Sports, oh man.

00:47:07 Because when I was in sales and marketing,

00:47:10 did a lot of travel and would meet with corporate executives

00:47:14 and in high level corporate sales,

00:47:17 you gotta get to know each other,

00:47:18 'cause you're gonna have a long-term relationship,

00:47:19 it's quite involved, so we would go places,

00:47:21 and a lot of time people wanted to take me to sports games,

00:47:24 or take me to sports games, I'll go to sports games.

00:47:26 I'd be like, please no.

00:47:30 Please don't take me to a sports game.

00:47:35 I guarantee you, you take me to a hockey game,

00:47:37 I'd be like, icing, it's all ice.

00:47:39 Please God, don't take me to a basketball game.

00:47:46 A basketball game, (imitates squeaking)

00:47:50 'cause all you can hear is those shoes squeaking

00:47:51 on the wood, right?

00:47:55 Oh God.

00:47:55 Oh look, they threw the ball.

00:47:59 Oh look, they bounced the ball.

00:48:00 Oh look, they threw the ball.

00:48:02 Oh look, they bounced the ball.

00:48:03 It's like they're dribbling my brain cells

00:48:09 and killing them slowly on the ground.

00:48:12 Oh my gosh.

00:48:14 I mean, when I would have people up for,

00:48:17 'cause you know, when large corporations

00:48:19 are buying from a small corporation,

00:48:20 they will often come up and wanna see your operation

00:48:23 and see your outfit and so on, so they'd come up,

00:48:24 and I would take them out, we'd go out for dinner

00:48:27 and have a good conversation,

00:48:28 or sometimes I would take them to comedy clubs

00:48:31 and things like that and all of that.

00:48:33 Soccer better, but not enough scoring

00:48:34 for our impatient culture.

00:48:36 Yeah.

00:48:40 Oh look, the ball's in the middle of the pitch again.

00:48:44 I've been to one soccer game my whole life,

00:48:46 it was over two hours, nobody scored.

00:48:48 And I was like, God, please.

00:48:51 I would like, I just wanted to throw myself on the pitch

00:48:54 just so I could get knocked out by the ball

00:48:56 and wake up sometime after the game was over.

00:48:58 I try to get deep with people as soon as possible,

00:49:05 usually that scares small talkers away, yeah.

00:49:07 Small talk is usually an aggressive assault

00:49:12 on human potential.

00:49:14 An aggressive assault on human potential.

00:49:16 Well, you could have a big and deep conversation,

00:49:21 but I'm gonna get really hostile

00:49:24 if you try to bring any deep facts to me, man.

00:49:26 I'm out, tapping out, I'm going to where things are real.

00:49:35 Because it's not small talk or deep or anything like that,

00:49:38 it's just honest versus lying.

00:49:39 It's just honest versus lying, that's all it is.

00:49:44 Small talk generally emanates from people

00:49:46 who have crushed and killed their own deep human potential

00:49:50 and wish to spread their tininess like a virus.

00:49:54 You know what small talk is?

00:50:00 Small talk fundamentally is censorship.

00:50:04 Who the fuck wants to talk for 20 minutes about the weather?

00:50:11 It's censorship, that's all it is.

00:50:13 Have you checked your ancestry?

00:50:17 Are you sure you were born in England?

00:50:19 I wasn't born in England.

00:50:21 I have a pal, an ROI, massive Liverpool fan,

00:50:23 takes all kinds.

00:50:24 There's tinnitus and then there's tininess.

00:50:32 He's a massive Liverpool fan, I like this outfit.

00:50:39 He's kind of gay.

00:50:40 The outfit with this logo is the one I like.

00:50:44 The outfit with that logo is bad.

00:50:47 Bad.

00:50:50 This, this sock, good.

00:50:54 This sock, bad.

00:50:57 Yay, this name, boo, this name.

00:51:02 I mean, it's so funny.

00:51:06 This name.

00:51:06 I mean, it's so sad.

00:51:10 Oh my God.

00:51:11 Oh my God.

00:51:16 People from this foreign country playing soccer

00:51:21 in close proximity to me are the shit.

00:51:25 They're just fantastic.

00:51:26 People from this foreign country playing a game

00:51:29 funded by me at gunpoint in close proximity,

00:51:31 but not quite as close proximity as this team,

00:51:34 this other team is bad.

00:51:37 Talk about cheering your masters.

00:51:41 I mean, they take the money for sports.

00:51:44 I did this whole thing on the Olympics and the NFL.

00:51:47 You know, they take money for sports for you at gunpoint

00:51:49 and people, they cheer this shit.

00:51:51 They literally cheer this stuff.

00:51:59 This Jersey team, ball head, happy,

00:52:03 AstroTurf giant stadium thing is really good.

00:52:07 Okay, it has put my children

00:52:08 approximately $100,000 in debt, but yay.

00:52:11 I can't believe the lack of pride that people have.

00:52:15 We're gonna take your wallet out through your fucking ass

00:52:18 and we're gonna give hundreds of billions of dollars

00:52:24 of subsidies and grants and tax breaks

00:52:27 to multi-billion dollar corporations

00:52:30 and you're just gonna suck up to it

00:52:32 like a giant sky titty forever and ever, amen.

00:52:35 You're just gonna cheer that shit on and waste your time.

00:52:39 Oh, and by the way, you're gonna watch people run around

00:52:43 while you sit on your fat ass with endless ads

00:52:47 for dubious medicines being shoved up your nose

00:52:50 on a regular basis.

00:52:54 Why talk to people when you can look at men in tight pants?

00:52:57 Oh my God, it's hilarious.

00:53:06 And literally the entire Roman empire,

00:53:09 paname surcanum, bread and circuses,

00:53:12 bro, all that needs to keep the masses happy

00:53:14 is bread and circuses.

00:53:15 Well, that's how it radio, is there something on TV?

00:53:17 A four hour game with a cozy

00:53:20 three and a half minutes of game time.

00:53:23 Boy, that sounds great to me.

00:53:26 (laughing)

00:53:28 Oh my God.

00:53:35 Oh my God, what can you even say to people?

00:53:43 Well, it's true that my entire country

00:53:49 is being sold out to globalists.

00:53:52 My children are being indoctrinated

00:53:53 and we're all being slowly shoveled

00:53:56 into the endless maw of international bank's true debt.

00:53:58 But, but on the other hand,

00:54:01 I can also be taxed to watch overpriced man boys

00:54:06 kick around a ball for $12 a beer.

00:54:08 Oh my God.

00:54:13 Oh my God.

00:54:17 Okay, listen, there's one exception to all of this.

00:54:20 Who can guess what the exception to all of this is?

00:54:23 Ice hockey, no.

00:54:26 No.

00:54:29 Racing, no.

00:54:32 Curling, no.

00:54:36 Although I love watching sports where

00:54:38 Shiva's regal and cigarettes are your warm up.

00:54:40 Rugby, no.

00:54:44 Participating, no.

00:54:45 If you are the player, nude sumo wrestling.

00:54:47 Okay, now you're getting close, obviously.

00:54:51 There is one exception to all of this.

00:54:52 Chess, no.

00:54:58 Engineering, what?

00:55:01 Tennis, it's fun to watch.

00:55:04 Debating horseback polo, duck racing, no.

00:55:07 Oh my God.

00:55:09 Do we have any men here?

00:55:12 Men.

00:55:13 Golf.

00:55:17 Golf is a good walk spoiled.

00:55:19 Golf is leaning on a stick and cursing your life

00:55:22 for one tiny micrometer of wrong hitting.

00:55:26 Combat, MMA, God no, MMA is completely psycho.

00:55:30 No, I'm gonna type it in.

00:55:34 This is not hard.

00:55:37 There is one exception that it's okay to watching sports.

00:55:42 What is the one exception that red blooded men

00:55:47 will make for sports watching?

00:55:49 That's right, women's beach volleyball in slow motion.

00:55:54 I don't even care what the score is.

00:55:56 Like it's like pole dancing, but they jump more.

00:56:01 So it's very, very different.

00:56:03 And it's one of these sports,

00:56:05 like obviously there's a lot of questionable decisions

00:56:07 in sports attire.

00:56:09 But the one thing that you absolutely know

00:56:11 about women's beach volleyball

00:56:12 is they simply couldn't do it

00:56:14 if their bikinis weren't painted on.

00:56:15 Like it's just impossible.

00:56:17 You know, like male sprinters can run in shorts,

00:56:20 but female sprinters have to have butt floss wedgies

00:56:24 in order to do anything.

00:56:26 It's just, it's a fact, it's science.

00:56:28 And you can't possibly argue with it

00:56:30 without being kind of gay.

00:56:33 So, 240 FPS jiggle.

00:56:37 Well, see, here's the thing, it's not jiggle.

00:56:40 That's the weird thing, right?

00:56:41 Okay, I'll give that to you, Steph,

00:56:44 with the Miami Vice theme playing.

00:56:46 So just yourself, sure, not gay.

00:56:48 I only watch that for the strategy.

00:56:50 Women's pole vaulting is pretty neat too.

00:56:52 Ah, you know, I can't watch women's pole vaulting.

00:56:57 Like in all seriousness, I just, I can't watch it.

00:56:59 I can't watch women's pole vaulting.

00:57:01 Anyone, I mean, anyone wanna guess why?

00:57:03 Yeah, women's pole vaulting, I can't.

00:57:09 I can't.

00:57:11 (silence)

00:57:14 It's too close to my sex life.

00:57:18 I just, it's what's necessary

00:57:22 for the reproduction of the species.

00:57:23 In my environment, it's too much.

00:57:27 They barely make it over, but they need a mat to land on,

00:57:30 and it is that much man meat that they're wrestling with.

00:57:34 So I just, I can't get to women's pole vaulting.

00:57:36 It's just too much of a flashback.

00:57:40 Women's tennis are paid the highest for women's sports.

00:57:42 Yeah, yeah.

00:57:44 If they break the pole, I flinch.

00:57:47 It's literally that projected from me.

00:57:49 (laughs)

00:57:51 They always land on your back.

00:57:52 It's weird.

00:57:53 (laughs)

00:57:54 Quite right, quite right.

00:57:56 And so yes, you don't.

00:58:01 And honestly, I think I've watched maybe 10 minutes

00:58:05 of women's beach volleyball my whole life.

00:58:08 I'm just making the joke.

00:58:09 I can't even.

00:58:11 I can't even.

00:58:12 I'd rather watch my wife cook.

00:58:14 All right.

00:58:14 (laughs)

00:58:15 Let's make sure that we stay serious, people.

00:58:19 We can't do small talk unless it involves Dick and V jokes.

00:58:24 My mom got stung by a bee while pole vaulting.

00:58:30 There's two opposite sex jokes there

00:58:37 about large and small penises there,

00:58:39 but because it's your mom, I'll let you make those yourself.

00:58:42 What's your thoughts on how female sports

00:58:44 are subsidized by male sports?

00:58:46 No, female sports aren't subsidized by male sports.

00:58:49 No, I know this for a fact.

00:58:52 I will donate the like count at the end of the stream.

00:58:56 Send some love for the comedy and philosophy.

00:58:59 Do you know female sports are not subsidized

00:59:01 by male sports?

00:59:02 I mean, this is a common misconception

00:59:03 in the realm of economics, but no, female sports.

00:59:06 Do you know what female sports are in fact subsidized by?

00:59:09 (silence)

00:59:11 Simps?

00:59:15 No.

00:59:16 No, because simps would voluntarily give the money.

00:59:19 A simp is somebody who voluntarily gives money to a woman

00:59:22 who will never ever have sex with him.

00:59:25 The state?

00:59:26 No.

00:59:29 The WNBA is subsidized heavily by the NBA.

00:59:35 That's a surface level thing.

00:59:38 Okay, what are female athletes even better at

00:59:43 than the best at their sport?

00:59:47 The best female athletes, what are they even better at

00:59:49 than their sports?

00:59:50 That's right.

00:59:54 Female sports is subsidized by whining, by complaining,

01:00:01 by nagging, by self-pity,

01:00:03 by eternal cries of masculinity justice.

01:00:06 Because no matter how good you are at bouncing a ball,

01:00:11 you're much better at breaking them.

01:00:14 Am I wrong?

01:00:15 No matter, you can be the number one elite,

01:00:18 rapinoe, excellent sports queen of the galaxy,

01:00:22 but there's still one thing you're better at.

01:00:25 Complaining, whining, nagging,

01:00:32 aggressively begging, or bad men-ness vibes will result.

01:00:37 That's the one sport if it was ever in the Olympics,

01:00:44 I mean, men would just be toasted, right?

01:00:47 They would just be completely toasted.

01:00:49 Absolutely toasted.

01:00:51 Because I...

01:00:55 Well, let me ask you this.

01:01:00 For what percentage of my show,

01:01:04 yeah, the best was the media demanding John McEnroe

01:01:07 apologize for daring to suggest Serena Williams

01:01:09 was not as good as top male players.

01:01:11 So Chris Everett was a top-seeded female player,

01:01:16 and I did a whole show on this back in the day,

01:01:18 you can look it up.

01:01:19 But yeah, female athletes,

01:01:21 they're, I mean, by male standards, they're just bad.

01:01:25 I mean, obviously they could kick my ass,

01:01:27 but that's not the point.

01:01:28 The point is really regards to the best male athletes.

01:01:30 Chris Everett,

01:01:31 she's a top-seeded female player.

01:01:35 Her brother just plays casually in college,

01:01:38 and he just beats her regularly,

01:01:41 without even any effort.

01:01:42 Serena Williams was going up against some guy

01:01:45 who was in his 50s and had taken up smoking,

01:01:48 but was a former good tennis player, and he beat her.

01:01:51 I mean, look, I love women for what they're doing

01:01:54 and all of that, but oh my God.

01:01:56 (laughs)

01:01:57 I mean, come on.

01:01:58 I mean, it's fine for female athletes,

01:02:01 but they're larping when it comes to men, right?

01:02:04 As a whole, except in the whining and complaining department.

01:02:07 Whining, complaining, and things are unfair

01:02:10 if I don't get resources.

01:02:11 I will just make your life unpleasant

01:02:13 until you cough up resources.

01:02:15 That is an Olympic-level sports

01:02:19 that is really, really something.

01:02:21 Ultra marathons, yes,

01:02:24 except women's beach volleyball players.

01:02:27 Okay, so what percentage of this show,

01:02:29 and I'm happy to hear this.

01:02:31 This is not a sensitive topic for me at all,

01:02:33 but, oh, that's funny.

01:02:38 Oh, that's pretty cute.

01:02:41 I just, sorry, I just noticed this.

01:02:43 This is from some time ago.

01:02:44 My daughter put something in my mouse pad.

01:02:47 It's a clear mouse pad.

01:02:48 She drew a picture of a dragon,

01:02:49 and she said, "Have a great show."

01:02:51 (laughs)

01:02:52 This is from a while ago.

01:02:53 I just noticed that.

01:02:54 That's pretty cool.

01:02:55 Um.

01:02:56 So, what percentage of this show

01:03:06 do I spend whining and complaining?

01:03:08 And I'm happy to hear.

01:03:10 It could be a surprising figure for me.

01:03:11 What percentage of this show

01:03:14 do I spend whining and complaining?

01:03:16 And asking for things.

01:03:19 We got 20%, 20%, 5%, 1% on tech grants,

01:03:23 7%, 15%, 2%, 25%, 10%, 9.35%

01:03:28 is Russell Brand the topic.

01:03:31 Just when Bitterstaff guest hosts?

01:03:34 I don't know if I've heard you complain.

01:03:36 No, rants don't count.

01:03:37 Rants aren't whining.

01:03:38 Rants aren't whining.

01:03:40 Well, that's interesting.

01:03:41 So, 20%, so 20%.

01:03:44 So, that's interesting.

01:03:47 So, if I do a two-hour show, half of it, half hour of it,

01:03:50 if I do a two-hour show, 25 minutes of it

01:03:53 is whining, kvetching, and complaining.

01:03:56 Is that right?

01:03:57 Is that what you're, yeah, we're not counting rants.

01:04:00 5% usually on the decline.

01:04:02 If rants are whining, then 5%.

01:04:03 No, rants aren't whining.

01:04:05 Anger is not whining.

01:04:06 Complaining is not whining.

01:04:08 It's when you're asking other people

01:04:13 to solve your problems by giving you resources.

01:04:15 Now, I don't count asking for donations as whining

01:04:19 because I'm providing value in all of that.

01:04:20 So, I think probably maybe 3%, maybe 5%.

01:04:25 Sometimes it overwhelms me, and I do complain,

01:04:29 and I'm human, and blah, blah, blah.

01:04:30 But I think for the most part,

01:04:32 I certainly didn't really complain about being deplatformed.

01:04:35 That was kind of inevitable,

01:04:37 given the truth that I wanted to get in the world,

01:04:39 and I don't have any regrets about any of that.

01:04:41 So, you haven't done that at all since dropping politics.

01:04:49 And I don't know that there was a lot of whining in politics.

01:04:52 I can't think of you ever complaining.

01:04:54 Do you have an example?

01:04:56 Oh, right, let me ask you this then.

01:05:01 I'm, again, happy to hear the answer.

01:05:03 Do I nag?

01:05:04 Do I nag?

01:05:06 Nagging is insistent complaining

01:05:13 in order to control someone else in an unjust fashion.

01:05:18 Only when people make stupid comments, LOL.

01:05:21 I don't, yeah, I mean, obviously,

01:05:24 I'm sure that there are examples over the time,

01:05:25 but I try to kind of avoid that stuff.

01:05:29 Now, why do most men avoid this kind of complaining?

01:05:34 Why do most men avoid this kind of complaining?

01:05:39 It doesn't work.

01:05:46 I think it does for some people,

01:05:50 because other men will mock you for it,

01:05:52 because it's weak and no one gives a shit.

01:05:54 Unproductive.

01:05:55 It doesn't work for men,

01:05:57 and may make people think more poorly of you.

01:05:59 It doesn't do much good for men to complain.

01:06:03 It's a sign of weakness.

01:06:05 Less sexually attractive.

01:06:06 But if there's one thing I wanna do is turn you people on.

01:06:10 Nipple time.

01:06:14 Females are more controlling.

01:06:15 It's against self-ownership.

01:06:16 For me, these are all great answers.

01:06:21 Could be much better than what I'm thinking of.

01:06:24 But for me, it's just a matter of pride.

01:06:29 It's just a matter of pride.

01:06:34 For me, complaining and whining and kvetching and nagging

01:06:39 is just so base and humiliating and pathetic and (gags)

01:06:44 It's just a matter of pride.

01:06:54 I can't do it.

01:06:55 I can't live with myself.

01:06:56 It's icky, right?

01:06:58 Now, I'm not surrounded by people who whine and complain.

01:07:02 I'm just not.

01:07:03 My wife is very stoic.

01:07:04 My daughter is even more so.

01:07:06 And it doesn't mean they're not vulnerable

01:07:07 or anything like that,

01:07:08 but we're not much of a complaining kind of group.

01:07:10 And I feel, even if I were,

01:07:14 'cause you know what it is,

01:07:14 when do we whine most?

01:07:16 When do we, and men, right?

01:07:17 When do we whine most over the course of our life?

01:07:20 Yeah, for months and months during COVID,

01:07:24 I never asked for donations.

01:07:25 I think it was for about 18 months.

01:07:27 I did not ask for donations during COVID.

01:07:29 I did, I mean, I'm proud of that.

01:07:33 Honestly, that was not easy.

01:07:34 I really had to shuffle and rearrange,

01:07:36 but I think it was about 18 months

01:07:41 I didn't ask for donations at all.

01:07:43 And very much told people to enjoy the show without it,

01:07:45 'cause I know it was tough.

01:07:47 It was tough.

01:07:48 Even when asking for donations, you're very fair.

01:07:52 If you can't afford it, I completely understand.

01:07:54 Yes, I don't want anyone to suffer for supporting the show.

01:07:57 If you can afford it and it's fine, great.

01:08:00 If you can't, if you're really broke, enjoy the show.

01:08:02 Your life will turn around.

01:08:03 You can catch me later.

01:08:04 That's fine.

01:08:06 All right, so when do men whine and complain?

01:08:11 When we're toddlers.

01:08:16 When we're toddlers.

01:08:18 I'm also fairly sensitive to it as a younger sibling,

01:08:21 like as a younger sibling, it's not really a great strategy.

01:08:25 Male nagging evolved to get food from better hunters.

01:08:29 Well, no, men, we don't nag.

01:08:34 What we do is we thunderously morally condemn people

01:08:37 for being blasphemers, unless they give us

01:08:40 that really nice piece of meat they got over there.

01:08:42 And then you're saved.

01:08:44 I'm gonna clear your path to heaven

01:08:46 and you are just so virtuous.

01:08:49 But if you don't give me that nice piece of meat,

01:08:51 you're going to hell, right?

01:08:52 So men threaten existentially and bribe existentially,

01:08:59 but we don't whine as a whole.

01:09:04 We don't whine as a whole.

01:09:05 I mean, some boys do when this and that,

01:09:07 but we don't whine as a whole.

01:09:08 We have too much pride for that.

01:09:11 We get our gods to complain for us.

01:09:15 Does that make sense?

01:09:17 I mean, we have religion because men are too proud to whine

01:09:23 in many ways.

01:09:25 My two-year-old doesn't whine as much now

01:09:29 that he learned to negotiate, right?

01:09:31 And my daughter, when she was very little,

01:09:35 she wouldn't, she would say, "I really want that,"

01:09:39 but she wouldn't say, "You have to get it for me

01:09:42 "and I'm gonna whine and complain until you get it for me."

01:09:44 She's very persistent when she wants something.

01:09:46 She's very persistent, but not aggressive

01:09:50 and not escalating and anything like that.

01:09:52 She's just very frank about what she wants.

01:09:54 And that's, of course, I mean, if I can provide it

01:09:57 and it's reasonable, I will certainly do so.

01:09:59 (silence)

01:10:01 Would you change the topic?

01:10:08 If you guys want, I'm happy to go wherever you wanna go.

01:10:11 I'm your willing philosophy thumb puppet.

01:10:16 Thumb puppet, yeah, there we go.

01:10:18 If you want, I have a seriously bitchy,

01:10:22 I got a seriously bitchy message today.

01:10:25 I'm happy to paste that and we can talk about it,

01:10:27 or I'm happy to answer whatever questions you have around,

01:10:32 but it's seriously bitchy.

01:10:36 From a supporter, "You killed my complaining

01:10:40 "a few months ago when you pointed out

01:10:42 "this is the easiest time to be alive."

01:10:44 Oh yeah.

01:10:45 "Did we conclude on the small talk discussion?"

01:10:49 Yeah, I think so.

01:10:49 Don't censor yourself.

01:10:52 You saw it, you want me to go off?

01:10:53 You saw the message?

01:10:57 Now, this is partly my fault, absolutely.

01:11:00 This is partly my fault.

01:11:03 So what I did today was I haven't even tried

01:11:07 to log into my Twitter account.

01:11:11 I haven't tried to log into my Twitter account,

01:11:14 didn't care about it, didn't write.

01:11:16 So anyway, I just happened to boot up an old phone

01:11:18 'cause I needed to get something and I just saw Twitter.

01:11:21 I was like, "Wow, Twitter."

01:11:22 And I booted it up and there it was.

01:11:23 I booted up Twitter and there it was.

01:11:26 There it was.

01:11:27 And you know, I was like, "Oh, it's almost 400,000 people

01:11:33 "just waiting for the staff bot to spew venomous,

01:11:36 "wise, fabric-tearing syllables across the scattershot,

01:11:41 "ricochet canyon of the human experience."

01:11:45 (imitates gun firing)

01:11:46 That's the thing, baby.

01:11:47 And it was just like, (imitates gun firing)

01:11:49 "And the voice came, 'I will take you to the mountaintop.

01:11:53 "'I will give you the world and all that is in it.

01:11:56 "'You just need to reject your values.'"

01:11:59 And...

01:12:02 I was tempted. (laughs)

01:12:07 I was tempted.

01:12:08 I haven't really felt tempted, but I was just like,

01:12:11 "Ooh, did it check your messages?"

01:12:13 One or two people said, "Hey, welcome back," you know, but.

01:12:18 So I booted it up and it was right there.

01:12:22 Just (imitates gun firing)

01:12:23 The big trumpet, the amplifier, the skywriting,

01:12:27 the, all of it was like, "Oh, right there."

01:12:30 I could have just, "Bing, bing, bing, bing, tweeted.

01:12:32 "I'm back."

01:12:33 I could, "Ooh, just a couple little tweets,

01:12:35 "a little push, push, push, type, type, type, go."

01:12:38 Go.

01:12:40 Go for the ban. (laughs)

01:12:43 Go for the ban hammer speed run, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:46 Let's hear the tweet that was gonna go out in that moment.

01:12:49 You can type it in the chat for a real immersive experience.

01:12:52 (laughs)

01:12:55 I will type out the tweet I thought of.

01:12:57 All right, here's the tweet I was going to.

01:13:13 This is my, yeah.

01:13:18 No, not I'm back, baby.

01:13:20 That's what (laughs)

01:13:23 I was gonna tweet.

01:13:24 I was gonna tweet,

01:13:28 I am a ridiculous hypocrite who has fallen for temptation.

01:13:31 The crack was too much.

01:13:35 The line of Coke was too long.

01:13:37 The nose was too hungry.

01:13:39 And he had to (imitates snoring)

01:13:41 snort it all up.

01:13:42 The devil has won.

01:13:47 Fame was too strong a pull.

01:13:50 Because you know, if you're gonna tweet

01:13:55 after saying you're not gonna tweet

01:13:57 'cause it's just not moral,

01:13:59 you might as well be honest about it.

01:14:00 Yeah, fuck it, I'm just a ridiculous hypocrite

01:14:03 who's fallen for temptation.

01:14:04 I welcome back the world,

01:14:08 even as I wave away my own morals and standards.

01:14:15 Oh yeah, no, I mean, literally,

01:14:17 I could feel the horn twitches,

01:14:19 like regrowing 20s hair, the horn twitches.

01:14:21 Wee, spirals coming up.

01:14:23 Have AC change your password and keep it secret.

01:14:26 I don't wanna have to beat it out of her.

01:14:27 That would just feel wrong.

01:14:28 Why not tweet about peaceful parenting?

01:14:31 Yeah, see, you've got the Satan temptation thing going there.

01:14:33 You're showing me a lot of leg,

01:14:35 a lot of fishnet stocking, some cleavage.

01:14:37 You're swinging your purse under the lamplight

01:14:38 and you're just back going me over.

01:14:40 I just wanna talk.

01:14:42 I just wanna talk.

01:14:44 Why not tweet about peaceful parenting?

01:14:46 Don't you wanna do good for the children?

01:14:47 The world think of all the children you could save.

01:14:49 Come on, do it, do it, do it.

01:14:51 (laughing)

01:14:53 Just post a sponsored deal with Pepsi

01:14:56 or Free Domain or something.

01:14:58 Since you're all so into vaccines,

01:15:04 how about I vaccinate you against bullshit?

01:15:07 Start tweeting and then claim you were hacked.

01:15:09 (laughing)

01:15:10 I think people might know.

01:15:12 I think people, let the hate flow through you.

01:15:15 Free Domain, sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends.

01:15:19 Let the sand of my morals be washed away

01:15:22 by the winds of Twitter.

01:15:23 That's right.

01:15:26 You know, I was good for a long time there.

01:15:30 It was, I mean, gosh, I've been good for decades.

01:15:34 Some habits, they just get easier with time

01:15:37 and some habits are like, oh, fuck it.

01:15:41 Some habits, you just, like the muscles,

01:15:43 they get stronger and some habits

01:15:44 are like pulling this giant elastic.

01:15:46 Just eventually it's like, boing, boing, boing,

01:15:48 and you're gone, right?

01:15:49 My father thinks you should go back to Twitter.

01:15:53 He's an FDR normie who just didn't keep watching

01:15:55 after the de-platforming.

01:15:57 Yes, let me take advice from a guy

01:15:58 who just couldn't go one website over.

01:16:00 Oh my God.

01:16:05 So if you stuck to things like finances,

01:16:09 you could keep an account,

01:16:10 so long as you avoid anything meaningful.

01:16:12 Yeah, man, go back on Twitter,

01:16:14 just avoid anything meaningful.

01:16:17 I'm sure that would be well worth it.

01:16:20 Sell your soul, but for virtually nothing.

01:16:24 That's my offer to you.

01:16:25 Give up your virtues and your values and your integrity,

01:16:30 but in return, have virtually no effect on anything.

01:16:35 Oh dear, oh dear.

01:16:40 Uh, just do small talk on Twitter, yeah, yeah.

01:16:44 It's ironic, yeah, it's a good point.

01:16:47 I didn't miss a beat, says ground beef.

01:16:49 I was gutted when your YouTube was gone,

01:16:50 but then you were right back.

01:16:52 Don't get it, it was so easy.

01:16:53 Do the verbally abusive comments on social media affect you?

01:16:56 Oh yeah.

01:16:57 Does Steph have a secret women's beach volleyball

01:17:01 alt fan account?

01:17:02 Please, camera, be off.

01:17:05 (laughing)

01:17:07 Let's see here.

01:17:11 Do the verbally abusive comments on social media affect me?

01:17:13 Absolutely, they hugely affect me.

01:17:15 They are hilarious.

01:17:16 They affect me, like, you know what it is?

01:17:19 I don't mind most exercise, but I'll tell you what I hate.

01:17:22 And if I stood up and took my shirt off,

01:17:24 you'd see clearly just how much I hate them.

01:17:26 I hate abs.

01:17:30 Doing anything to do with abs.

01:17:31 Plank, I just feel like a epileptic gashunt.

01:17:34 Sit-ups are ridiculously boring,

01:17:38 and I just, leg lifts make my hips click

01:17:40 because apparently I'm 900 years old, I'm a Thucyla, but.

01:17:44 Yeah, Steph got with his morality showing on camera.

01:17:51 Well, you remember the pole vaulting comment,

01:17:53 like I'd needed distant fish islands.

01:17:56 Yes, verbally abusive comments on social media

01:18:00 are hilarious.

01:18:01 They are hilarious.

01:18:03 And shall we do one?

01:18:06 So it's my fault.

01:18:11 I take ownership for this because I posted

01:18:14 a picture of me holding my phone.

01:18:18 Now I could, I should have done a video

01:18:19 with me holding my phone and shaking,

01:18:22 like shaking my phone.

01:18:23 Like, I don't know, setting fire to my hand

01:18:29 so I don't touch the great Babylon beast of Twitter.

01:18:33 Oh, God.

01:18:37 Am I precious?

01:18:40 That's right, that's right, that's right.

01:18:41 Cast it into the fire.

01:18:44 And I was just like, 'cause you know,

01:18:45 ethics are all kind of theoretical

01:18:47 until it's right there in front of you, right?

01:18:50 Ethics is quite theoretical until it's right there

01:18:54 in front of you, right?

01:18:58 I should have, no, I won't say that.

01:19:00 It's too rude.

01:19:01 Apparently now we've hit my limit.

01:19:03 All right.

01:19:04 So this is the bitchy message.

01:19:10 I can't remember where it was from or whatever, right?

01:19:14 Say the rude thing.

01:19:17 Oh, the great instigators are continuing, right?

01:19:20 Okay.

01:19:23 Hit me with a why if I do this with bitchy voice

01:19:26 or should I be fair and read it straight?

01:19:29 Why for bitchy voice, F for fair.

01:19:32 Smuggins, bitchy voice, always why.

01:19:38 Oh, there's one or two people who want it to be fair.

01:19:41 Read it straight, fair.

01:19:42 Oh, you know me, I'm just a slave to democracy.

01:19:46 Put those acting talents to use.

01:19:48 All right.

01:19:49 All right, so I'm afraid this one's gonna need,

01:19:51 it's gonna need a full on nose pinch

01:19:54 because that's just the kind of voice that there is.

01:19:55 All right.

01:19:56 Are you ready?

01:19:57 Say it again, nose pinch.

01:19:59 The reason I'll never subscribe to your local page

01:20:02 and never donate to you is because I refuse

01:20:05 to help people who don't help themselves.

01:20:08 Since getting de-platformed,

01:20:10 you barely get any views or engagement,

01:20:13 but you still refuse to go back on Twitter

01:20:15 and engage with your 300,000 followers.

01:20:19 Despite the fact that Twitter has new owners,

01:20:23 then you can only blame yourself

01:20:25 for your drop in engagement and drop in income.

01:20:28 You need to stop being so petty and pathetic.

01:20:31 Oh God, that's kind of snooty and snotty.

01:20:35 Holy fedora, Batman.

01:20:39 That's boarding school for sure.

01:20:41 I'm actually, it's full soy bitch.

01:20:43 You were hoping for Gap Valley Girl.

01:20:45 I could do it Valley Girl.

01:20:46 Damn, that was good.

01:20:51 Marriage material right there.

01:20:52 That genuinely hurts my ears.

01:20:54 Sorry about that.

01:20:55 Well, what was it when I first did Diamond and Silk?

01:20:59 I remember the comments were RIP headphone users.

01:21:03 Is this a reason?

01:21:04 (laughing)

01:21:06 Is that a reason, editor?

01:21:08 Damn his single mother.

01:21:09 Was that a chick?

01:21:10 I think it's immaterial either way.

01:21:12 Your mic was struggling with those high frequencies.

01:21:15 Yes, how to get sting on helium

01:21:18 to read your bitchy messages, right?

01:21:20 Actually, oh, that's very funny.

01:21:25 All right, I refuse to help people.

01:21:26 Okay, so the reason I'll never subscribe

01:21:27 to your locals page and never donate to you

01:21:29 is because I refuse to help people

01:21:30 who don't help themselves.

01:21:32 So it's interesting.

01:21:40 I mean, I do find this an interesting thing to unpack,

01:21:44 right, 'cause you get these messages

01:21:46 and people think that they're controlling me,

01:21:47 but all they're doing is they're revealing themselves, right?

01:21:50 They're just revealing themselves, right?

01:21:52 So what's the first thing he says is,

01:21:57 "I will consume your content.

01:21:59 "I will watch your live streams.

01:22:01 "I will read your books.

01:22:03 "I will watch your presentations.

01:22:05 "I will listen to your call-in shows.

01:22:07 "I will consume your content,

01:22:09 "but I'm not paying you a penny, right?

01:22:14 "I'm withholding money from you.

01:22:19 "I'm withholding money from you."

01:22:21 Does that make sense?

01:22:25 So does he start off with an appeal

01:22:29 to some sort of moral principle?

01:22:30 Does he start off with a rebuttal

01:22:33 of the arguments I put forward

01:22:34 about why I wouldn't go on Twitter?

01:22:36 I'll never subscribe to your locals page

01:22:39 and never donate to you, right?

01:22:41 So the only thing that he has to offer

01:22:47 in his moral analysis is he's a giant freeloader.

01:22:51 (laughs)

01:22:53 Well, I'm going to rely on the fact

01:22:55 that other people donate to you

01:22:57 so that I can continue to enjoy your content,

01:23:00 but I'm not going to do it.

01:23:02 Okay, so you're a freeloader, right?

01:23:04 And his only thing to try and get my attention

01:23:09 is to not pay, to withhold money from me.

01:23:14 So the only reason I'd listen to him

01:23:17 is because I want his money.

01:23:19 But if I wanted people's money

01:23:21 to the point where I'd break principle,

01:23:23 I'd already be on Twitter.

01:23:25 God, I can't believe the people,

01:23:26 like what do they think?

01:23:28 What do you think?

01:23:29 Oh, well, I'm not going to give you money

01:23:31 because money's all that really motivates you.

01:23:33 And it's like, look, if money was all that motivated me,

01:23:35 I'd be back on Twitter.

01:23:36 I mean, Twitter's literally paying people now.

01:23:41 You don't think I'd get engagement?

01:23:43 I mean, Twitter's literally giving people

01:23:45 thousands of tens of thousands of dollars a month.

01:23:48 So I'm not going to pay you.

01:23:51 It's like, if paying was my motivation,

01:23:55 you wouldn't even need to write this.

01:23:56 I don't know what people think about this.

01:23:58 Like, what do they think?

01:24:00 Since getting de-platformed,

01:24:02 you barely get any views or engagement.

01:24:05 Well, I don't think that's true,

01:24:06 but you know, he doesn't know the numbers, right?

01:24:08 But that's fine.

01:24:09 But you still refuse to go back on Twitter

01:24:13 and engage with your 300,000 followers.

01:24:15 Again, no arguments, no this, no the other, right?

01:24:21 So clearly, getting views or engagement

01:24:24 is not my highest priority, right?

01:24:27 Like, clearly, clearly.

01:24:29 I mean, do you know how much money I could make

01:24:31 if I wasn't interested in moral excellence?

01:24:36 I mean, come on.

01:24:37 My skills, I know some of this

01:24:40 'cause I was in the business world.

01:24:41 I was an entrepreneur for a long time.

01:24:43 In the business world.

01:24:44 So I know how much money I could make with my skills

01:24:48 if I wasn't interested in moral excellence.

01:24:51 But you know, there's tons of people out there

01:24:53 who grub for money without morals.

01:24:55 We don't need another one.

01:24:57 We don't need another one, right?

01:24:58 So you refuse to go back on Twitter

01:25:02 and engage with the 300,000 followers

01:25:04 despite the fact that Twitter has new owners.

01:25:06 So, why does it matter that Twitter have new owners?

01:25:12 If Twitter's new owners are more moral,

01:25:13 then they should apologize

01:25:15 when they spread falses about people.

01:25:18 Then you can only blame yourself

01:25:20 for your drop in engagement and drop in income.

01:25:23 I can only blame myself for my drop in engagement

01:25:27 and drop in income.

01:25:28 So the fact that in general,

01:25:33 in the social media platforms that de-platformed me,

01:25:36 they didn't give me good or objective reasons.

01:25:38 They didn't give me warnings.

01:25:39 They didn't give me guidance.

01:25:40 They just blanked me out.

01:25:43 To me, against their own terms of service,

01:25:47 I can only blame myself for what other people did, right?

01:25:54 I can only blame myself for what other people did.

01:25:59 All right.

01:26:00 Can you imagine if some woman is complaining

01:26:03 about being assaulted that he would say,

01:26:05 but you can only blame yourself.

01:26:07 I mean, he would never say that, right?

01:26:08 So it's kind of funny, right?

01:26:10 You need to stop being so petty and pathetic.

01:26:13 So if I can't bribe you and insult you,

01:26:20 perhaps I can abuse you.

01:26:22 Perhaps that will get you to do what I want.

01:26:25 Don't you find that funny?

01:26:32 Oh my God.

01:26:35 (laughs)

01:26:37 I have standards, he says.

01:26:42 I refuse to help people who don't help themselves.

01:26:45 So now you see, he is in the lofty and grand

01:26:49 and powerful position of knowing

01:26:52 what helping me looks like, right?

01:26:54 He knows what would help me,

01:27:00 and he knows that I'm not helping myself.

01:27:03 I'm not helping myself because I'm not going

01:27:07 and talking to 300,000 followers.

01:27:09 So when somebody claims to know you better

01:27:13 than you know yourself,

01:27:15 that's, I mean, you hear me a million times

01:27:18 in call-in shows, right?

01:27:19 I always say, this is my idea, this is my thought,

01:27:22 but you know your life infinitely better than I do,

01:27:23 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

01:27:26 So I refuse to help people who don't help themselves.

01:27:28 So I'm just not helping myself.

01:27:31 Now, what is helping myself

01:27:34 is getting more views or engagement.

01:27:37 So the only thing that would help me is views or engagement.

01:27:41 So he's gonna threaten me with not paying for me,

01:27:44 and he's gonna try and bribe me with views or engagement.

01:27:46 Now this, I understand this,

01:27:48 this is sort of a male-to-male thing,

01:27:49 or a pseudo-male-to-male thing,

01:27:51 which is I'm going to offer you higher status.

01:27:55 I'm gonna offer you more clout and higher status,

01:27:58 and so that will help you, right?

01:28:01 Since getting deplatformed,

01:28:04 you barely get any views or engagement.

01:28:06 Let's say that's true.

01:28:10 I don't think it's particularly true,

01:28:11 but let's say that that's true, okay?

01:28:14 So views or engagement is the only metric I should judge by,

01:28:18 right?

01:28:20 You refuse to go back on Twitter

01:28:21 and engage with your 300,000 followers.

01:28:23 So refuse is interesting.

01:28:28 Refuse is a word that sort of summons up,

01:28:31 and you understand that people who try to manipulate you

01:28:34 are always trying to paint a word picture,

01:28:37 because they don't have any actual arguments.

01:28:38 And so they're trying to paint to you this word picture.

01:28:43 And this word picture is you just refuse, right?

01:28:46 It's like denier or a refuser, anti-vaxxer or anti-science.

01:28:51 It's just, it portrays you in a negative

01:28:54 without engaging with any arguments, right?

01:28:58 Despite the fact that Twitter has new owners.

01:29:02 So whether Twitter has new owners or not

01:29:07 is not the key part, getting more views or engagement.

01:29:10 And it's kind of funny because, I mean,

01:29:12 clearly I've given up a lot of views and engagement.

01:29:15 Oh, yeah, thanks.

01:29:16 I appreciate that, but please don't send me a dollar tip.

01:29:19 Like, I just feel bad about it,

01:29:20 'cause if you're down to your last dollar,

01:29:21 please save it for, I don't know,

01:29:25 whatever you could buy with a dollar these days.

01:29:27 But if you could do me a favor, I appreciate that.

01:29:29 And of course, after deductions, it's pennies, right?

01:29:31 Oh, not pennies, but very little.

01:29:32 So clearly I don't want the 300,000 followers at some price, right?

01:29:42 And you can only blame yourself.

01:29:44 So blame yourself is the key sentence there, right?

01:29:47 I'll paste this into you guys and watch it and follow along.

01:29:50 Blame yourself is the key part of that next sentence.

01:29:53 He's trying to get me to view myself

01:29:55 as I just won't help themselves.

01:29:57 I'm humiliated because I barely get any views or engagement.

01:30:00 I refuse to go back on Twitter.

01:30:01 Twitter has new owners.

01:30:04 You can only blame yourself for your drop in engagement

01:30:07 and drop in income.

01:30:07 You can only blame yourself.

01:30:10 So blame yourself is the key.

01:30:13 He wants me to blame myself.

01:30:14 So he's trying to apply negative pressure, right?

01:30:16 He's trying to say, you're inconsequential,

01:30:19 you're humiliated, you're dropping income,

01:30:21 dropping in, of course, been dropping income,

01:30:23 dropping engagement for sure.

01:30:25 So I am superior, he would say.

01:30:31 I'm superior.

01:30:31 I'm never gonna help you out

01:30:32 'cause you won't even help yourself.

01:30:33 So this is him from a superior standpoint

01:30:35 trying to deal with me, the recalcitrant toddler

01:30:38 who just doesn't know what's right for himself and so on, right?

01:30:40 And so he's like, I'm never gonna help you

01:30:47 'cause you're not even helping yourself, right?

01:30:49 You barely get any views or engagement.

01:30:51 That's like, humiliating and it's bad

01:30:53 and I'm losing out and I'm not in the party

01:30:56 and all of that.

01:30:56 You still refuse, engage with Twitter,

01:30:59 Twitter's new owners, only blame yourself.

01:31:01 You need to stop being so petty and pathetic, right?

01:31:04 Why the fuck would I listen to anybody

01:31:07 who's just this full of bizarre hatred?

01:31:11 So let me tell you, let me tell you.

01:31:16 He's trying to induce self-criticism and attack.

01:31:18 Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure.

01:31:23 I can tell you why people are bothered

01:31:27 by me not going on Twitter.

01:31:28 Would you like to know why people are really bothered

01:31:33 by me not going on Twitter?

01:31:35 I know this one in my bone marrow.

01:31:40 Oh, did you send a $2 tip?

01:31:45 Oh no, okay.

01:31:48 All right, all right.

01:31:51 (laughs)

01:31:58 Oh, well, all I can do is make a request.

01:32:00 All I can do is make a request.

01:32:02 No, so, they have succumbed to temptation

01:32:12 and they're enraged that I haven't, right?

01:32:15 They have succumbed to temptation in some area,

01:32:18 in this, in this, some area, and this,

01:32:20 I mean, look, he succumbed to temptation

01:32:22 by just verbally abusing someone he's trying to help.

01:32:25 Like in what universe, in what social engagement,

01:32:28 in what environment, just screaming at people

01:32:31 and insulting them get to do what they want?

01:32:33 So this guy is a verbal abuser

01:32:35 and it works in his world, I guess,

01:32:41 'cause he's still doing it or whatever, right?

01:32:42 So he is really, really, really bothered

01:32:46 by the fact that I've resisted temptation

01:32:48 and this came in response to me saying,

01:32:52 "Yes, it's tempting," right?

01:32:55 And I was posting this saying, I'm not,

01:32:58 I posted saying something like,

01:32:59 "I'm not gonna pretend I'm not tempted."

01:33:01 And I was, I'm looking at that like,

01:33:02 "Oh, that would be cool.

01:33:03 "Big entrance, you know, back from the wilderness

01:33:07 "and back from the dead and whatever you wanna call it," right?

01:33:11 So the fact that I'm saying I'm tempted,

01:33:13 but I'm still not gonna do it enrages him.

01:33:15 So why does it enrage him?

01:33:17 It's got nothing to do with me.

01:33:18 It's got nothing to do with me.

01:33:23 Why would I have anything?

01:33:27 I'm just a podcaster, I'm a philosopher

01:33:29 and I'm making my choices.

01:33:31 I think they're the right choices.

01:33:32 I've got good reasons for them.

01:33:33 That's my preference.

01:33:34 I've made a good case for them, I think.

01:33:36 So why would he be so enraged?

01:33:38 Why would he be so enraged at me saying,

01:33:41 "I'm not gonna pretend it's not tempting,"

01:33:44 and showing my, because that's right there, right?

01:33:46 That makes it kind of immediate, right?

01:33:47 There's 350 or whatever it is,

01:33:49 thousand people, boom, right?

01:33:51 And so I'm resisting temptation.

01:33:58 I'm not perfect, I don't always do it,

01:34:01 but I resisted temptation in this point.

01:34:03 So why would he be so enraged that I resisted temptation?

01:34:08 Because he can't even resist the temptation

01:34:11 to rage at people and verbally abuse them, right?

01:34:14 He can't even resist the temptation to rage at someone.

01:34:18 And this is the guy I'm gonna listen to

01:34:22 about the right thing to do.

01:34:24 This is the guy I'm supposed to listen to

01:34:29 about the right thing to do.

01:34:31 It's this highly manipulative, weirdo, verbal abuser guy.

01:34:35 "Please tell me more about the right thing to do

01:34:39 "because you are so wise in your hysterical,

01:34:42 "girly, grandmotherly-like manipulation and verbal abusing.

01:34:46 "Please tell me more about virtue and ethics

01:34:49 "and how to engage people in a positive way."

01:34:53 So what happened was he's ashamed of some temptation

01:35:00 that he succumbed to.

01:35:01 I mean, we all know this, right?

01:35:03 A guy who ends up sleeping outside of his marriage,

01:35:05 he ends up sleeping with a girl outside of his marriage

01:35:08 when he sees his friend being married for 30 years,

01:35:12 been faithful, he's gonna be angry, right?

01:35:16 He's gonna be angry.

01:35:18 He's gonna be angry.

01:35:21 So this has nothing to do with me

01:35:28 because the idea that verbal abuse

01:35:31 is the way to get me to do something,

01:35:33 it's like, dude, I grew up with verbal abusers.

01:35:37 I can handle that shit, right?

01:35:39 So the idea that straight-up bribery,

01:35:48 attempted humiliation, and verbal abuse

01:35:52 would get me to change my mind,

01:35:53 you understand it's fundamentally hilarious.

01:35:58 It's like if I can resist the temptation

01:36:04 of 350,000 willing souls to listen,

01:36:07 if I can resist that temptation,

01:36:09 how do you not let verbal abusers affect you?

01:36:12 But they're not talking to me.

01:36:14 This guy's not talking to me.

01:36:15 He's raging.

01:36:19 Rage doesn't have anything to do with me.

01:36:22 Like 99.9% of the things that people have to do with me

01:36:27 don't have anything to do with me.

01:36:28 I mean, I'm a nice guy, I want what's best for the world,

01:36:31 I'm a good dad, I'm a good husband,

01:36:33 I'm a good friend, I'm a good philosopher.

01:36:34 So the idea that people go and nuclear on me,

01:36:39 because, and here's the other thing too,

01:36:42 so you understand I confess to vulnerability, right?

01:36:46 'Cause look, I'm honest, I was tempted.

01:36:49 I looked at that phone and it was like,

01:36:50 oh, that's Twitter, boom.

01:36:52 Oh my God, my account is right there, right?

01:36:55 And that's, you know, that's in your face, right?

01:36:57 And I wanted to share that, yeah, it's tempting,

01:37:02 I'm not gonna lie, I'm not, I am made of stone,

01:37:05 I'm never tempted by anything negative

01:37:08 or potentially against my values.

01:37:10 So it's not about me, it's nothing to do with me.

01:37:22 This guy is talking to himself, you understand?

01:37:24 So the way that I deal with it is just accurately.

01:37:31 You need to stop being so petty and pathetic.

01:37:33 Do you think he's talking to me?

01:37:34 Do you think he's talking, he's not talking to me.

01:37:37 Well, first of all, this is his father talking to him,

01:37:40 this has nothing to do with me.

01:37:43 And he has succumbed to the temptation

01:37:51 of being manipulative and raging and abusing people

01:37:53 because obviously he's doing this because it works, right?

01:37:57 And so he's got people around him

01:37:58 who falls for this kind of stuff,

01:37:59 which means he's trapped in this underworld

01:38:01 of self-attacking people.

01:38:02 And so I just look at this as somebody yelling in the rain.

01:38:07 Like they're out there in the rain,

01:38:12 yelling at the sky, yelling, they're punching a tree.

01:38:15 Like it's nothing to do with me, honestly,

01:38:17 this is absolutely essential to get.

01:38:19 It's nothing to do with me.

01:38:20 Like my mom yelling, screaming,

01:38:23 it's nothing to do with me.

01:38:24 I was a good kid, I was a nice kid,

01:38:26 I was a friendly kid, I was a fun kid,

01:38:28 nothing to do with me.

01:38:29 This has nothing to do with me.

01:38:30 This has nothing to do with me.

01:38:37 This is straight up semi-devilish bribes and threats,

01:38:47 right, bribes and threats.

01:38:48 Never gonna donate to you.

01:38:49 You never get any views or engagement.

01:38:52 You refuse to go back.

01:38:53 Only blame yourself.

01:38:57 Stop being so petty and pathetic.

01:38:58 - What series of events need to occur

01:39:02 for a happy Twitter return?

01:39:03 Yeah, I've told that.

01:39:05 I've said that they accused me of cheating

01:39:07 and gaming the system of fraud, in a sense.

01:39:10 They'd need to withdraw that.

01:39:11 And I've already said, I'll sign a document

01:39:13 saying I won't sue, right?

01:39:14 I just need to, right?

01:39:15 Some publicly accused me of some pretty significant wrongdoing

01:39:18 and I don't think I did it.

01:39:20 So they would need to tell me

01:39:24 that they withdraw that, right?

01:39:27 Somebody publicly insults you,

01:39:28 then they need to withdraw that insult

01:39:31 for you to have anything to do with them, right?

01:39:33 Like, let's take a business scenario.

01:39:36 Come on, this is not complicated, guys.

01:39:37 Let's just take a business scenario.

01:39:39 Your partner publicly accuses you of embezzling, right?

01:39:46 Publicly accuses you of embezzling

01:39:49 and stealing from clients.

01:39:50 And then he wants to go back into business with you.

01:39:53 Do you just like, oh yeah, that's fine.

01:39:56 (laughs)

01:39:58 I mean, come on people, isn't that complicated?

01:40:00 This really isn't that complicated.

01:40:03 You say, ah, yes, but, thank you very much for the tip.

01:40:07 Yes, but it's a new owner.

01:40:09 So?

01:40:14 So?

01:40:18 The fuck would that have to do with anything?

01:40:20 New owners.

01:40:22 Oh really, so it's new owners,

01:40:23 so they just started from scratch.

01:40:24 They didn't inherit any existing user base.

01:40:27 They didn't inherit any advertising contracts.

01:40:29 They didn't inherit any employees.

01:40:30 They didn't inherit any income whatsoever.

01:40:32 They just completely wiped the slate clean

01:40:34 and started from scratch.

01:40:35 No.

01:40:39 If you got regularly poisoned at some restaurant

01:40:45 and they kept most of the staff,

01:40:48 but had a new manager, are you going back?

01:40:51 (laughs)

01:40:53 Ah, that's funny.

01:40:57 They inherited all of the assets

01:41:00 and all of the liabilities, right?

01:41:04 When you buy a company,

01:41:05 you get the assets and the liabilities

01:41:07 and the liabilities of publicly accusing people,

01:41:09 in my view, of wrongdoing

01:41:10 where the wrongdoing did not occur.

01:41:11 So you got to fix that.

01:41:13 You got to do the right thing.

01:41:15 You inherit the income.

01:41:17 You can't take the income without the liabilities.

01:41:20 That's retarded.

01:41:21 That's not business.

01:41:27 I mean, try that.

01:41:30 Try that.

01:41:32 Try buying a business that's being sued

01:41:37 and saying, "Oh no, just drop, the lawsuit is gone

01:41:40 "'cause I bought, it's new ownership, man."

01:41:42 (laughs)

01:41:44 People just don't understand how business works.

01:41:46 I don't know what to say.

01:41:48 I mean, literally people will lecture me

01:41:50 about corporate purchase and sale

01:41:52 when I've actually been involved,

01:41:53 directly involved, personally involved

01:41:55 in the sale of a corporation twice.

01:41:57 Twice.

01:41:58 Twice.

01:42:01 So do you know how you get rid of liabilities?

01:42:07 How do you get rid of liabilities in a business?

01:42:10 You know the process of getting rid

01:42:14 of liabilities in a business, right?

01:42:15 No, you don't fix them.

01:42:16 If you want to get rid of them,

01:42:17 you want to erase your liabilities.

01:42:18 Bankruptcy.

01:42:20 Thank you, O'Brien, that's exactly right.

01:42:21 You declare bankruptcy.

01:42:23 Quick question.

01:42:26 Has Twitter declared bankruptcy?

01:42:28 Nope.

01:42:29 So they still have all of their liabilities,

01:42:32 all of the existing liabilities that they have inherited.

01:42:35 And what's that Elon Musk said?

01:42:37 Yeah, I think Elon Musk said something

01:42:39 like he felt like he bought a crime scene

01:42:41 or something like that, right?

01:42:42 So where's this transparency?

01:42:43 Where's the transparency?

01:42:44 Where's the transparency?

01:42:47 Well, here's what was done.

01:42:48 Here's the bad things that were done.

01:42:49 Here's how they-- where's the transparency?

01:42:50 And they say, ah, well, we can't do that because of lawsuits.

01:42:53 That's like, OK, fine.

01:42:54 Fine.

01:42:56 So they won't do the right thing if there's liability there.

01:42:59 That's fine.

01:42:59 What if you ended each tweet with Twitter still owes me

01:43:03 an apology for publicly lying about me?

01:43:04 What about that?

01:43:08 Here's the conditions under which I should not tweet,

01:43:13 but I will tweet under all the conditions

01:43:16 by which I should not be tweeting.

01:43:17 Well, and this Linda Iaccarino or whatever, come on, man.

01:43:24 I mean, the idea that there's-- right.

01:43:26 I wonder how many of those 300,000 followers

01:43:28 don't know about your new platforms.

01:43:30 Oh, some very rude thoughts just went through my head.

01:43:44 Why would I care about 300,000 followers who couldn't

01:43:51 be bothered to go to a new site?

01:43:54 Come on.

01:43:57 Come on, people.

01:44:02 Please have some pride.

01:44:04 Well, what if they just don't know that I still exist?

01:44:09 I mean, the website didn't change.

01:44:13 John 6, Jesus didn't care when most of the crowd

01:44:17 left hearing the truth.

01:44:17 Yeah.

01:44:19 Well, Steph, why wouldn't you want access

01:44:28 to the 300,000 people who just don't care really

01:44:30 that much about philosophy?

01:44:31 Someone says, "Downloaded an app and paid for a subscription

01:44:41 because Steph's content is worth it.

01:44:42 No time for the I miss him crowd as if you just

01:44:44 disappeared into the abyss."

01:44:45 Yeah.

01:44:47 Hey, listen, out of sight and out of mind, beautiful.

01:44:49 Beautiful.

01:44:51 Beautiful.

01:44:53 I mean, you know the Spartan 300 principle, right?

01:44:59 You know the Spartan-- and I know the Pareto principle,

01:45:02 right?

01:45:02 Which is that it's you guys who keep the show going.

01:45:04 It's you guys who keep these live streams going and so on,

01:45:07 right?

01:45:08 "Your naggers should tweak clips from your shows if they care so

01:45:10 much about you being on there."

01:45:12 Yeah, yeah.

01:45:12 Yeah, I mean, you don't need many people to change the world.

01:45:17 And in fact, the more people you have,

01:45:18 the less likely you are to change the world.

01:45:20 "Tom Trump also lost a ton of followers

01:45:27 when he moved to Truth Social."

01:45:28 Right.

01:45:30 Somebody says, "I was following on my band account

01:45:32 and my backup account, and I was following on my Facebook

01:45:35 account, and I was following on my Instagram account."

01:45:37 "And I followed on ThemTube and BitChute and Gap."

01:45:41 Yeah.

01:45:41 So here's the thing, too.

01:45:42 There was a gap between being banned from various platforms,

01:45:45 right?

01:45:45 I mean, there was YouTube, and then a little while later,

01:45:47 there was Twitter.

01:45:49 So there was-- I mean, people saw that it was happening.

01:45:51 They could have easily just gone to freedomain.com,

01:45:53 bookmark it, and checked it out, right?

01:45:55 Look, why would I want people who don't care that much

01:45:58 about philosophy?

01:45:59 You understand, there would be a noise, a distraction,

01:46:02 and they would detract from the concentrated quality

01:46:04 of what we're doing here.

01:46:05 They would dilute the conversation.

01:46:08 Oh, tell me, let's say that we were broadcasting to--

01:46:13 I don't know, what did I get?

01:46:14 7,000 people sometimes on live streams, right?

01:46:17 So let's say that we were broadcasting to 100 or 500

01:46:20 times more people, right?

01:46:21 Would this show be better?

01:46:23 Would the show be better if I couldn't find these great

01:46:28 messages in amongst all this normie waterfall stuff, right?

01:46:34 I'm curious.

01:46:34 I mean, I'm happy to hear.

01:46:36 I'm happy to hear.

01:46:38 Less intimate, less focused, less concentrated,

01:46:42 and there would be way more to manage.

01:46:45 99% of the posts would be trolls, that's right.

01:46:48 You get more $1 tips, yeah.

01:46:51 It's a close engagement we have now.

01:46:56 I think it's great.

01:46:56 You know, you can play your stadiums, which I've done,

01:47:00 and then you can play your jazz clubs.

01:47:02 I wouldn't have gotten word in edgewise.

01:47:04 Like, for you guys, this is kind of funny, right?

01:47:07 You guys would not at all benefit from a bigger show, right?

01:47:10 I don't think I would fundamentally either,

01:47:12 but you guys certainly wouldn't, because you'd be lost

01:47:13 in the shuffle, right?

01:47:14 You'd be lost in the shuffle.

01:47:21 And here's the thing.

01:47:26 Ooh, should I talk money?

01:47:28 I'm still so British, I don't want to talk money.

01:47:30 Should I talk money?

01:47:32 No, probably not, right?

01:47:33 Yes.

01:47:36 Yes.

01:47:36 No.

01:47:37 You used to charge money for each message you responded to?

01:47:46 What? I don't remember that.

01:47:48 I don't know what you're talking about.

01:47:59 (sighs)

01:48:01 So.

01:48:04 Would more people...

01:48:14 Would...

01:48:16 Yeah, bump those like numbers.

01:48:17 Yeah, thank you.

01:48:18 Would more people mean more money?

01:48:23 Would it be proportional?

01:48:25 Right?

01:48:29 You understand there's a law of diminishing returns, right?

01:48:31 If I have more people, but the core donors are already here,

01:48:46 if I have more people, but the core donors are already here,

01:48:52 I'm harming the core donors for the sake of people

01:48:56 who don't support the show.

01:48:58 Do you follow?

01:49:01 Right? Marginal revolution, right?

01:49:04 You sort of follow?

01:49:05 This way, I'm giving the best value to the core supporters.

01:49:14 If I get more people, I give less value to the core supporters

01:49:18 because I'm giving more value to the people who aren't going to pay.

01:49:21 Does it make sense, right?

01:49:23 This is a 80/20 rule in business.

01:49:30 80% of your income comes from 20% of your customers.

01:49:32 This is true for just about every business known to man.

01:49:34 80% of your income comes from...

01:49:37 And I read...

01:49:37 I used to read Harvard Business Review back in the day,

01:49:39 even in my early 20s, even before I got into business.

01:49:42 I found Harvard Business Review very interesting.

01:49:43 Now, I think it's just woke crap.

01:49:44 But so back in the day, and they said,

01:49:47 it's absolutely essential to fire your customers.

01:49:51 You must fire your customers.

01:49:52 You must find, because it's the other way around.

01:49:54 80% of your costs come from 20% of your customers.

01:49:58 Tiny business here.

01:50:02 It's true, right?

01:50:03 I feel so good being a top donor.

01:50:05 And thank you so much, my friend.

01:50:06 I really appreciate it.

01:50:07 So 80% of your costs and losses come from 20% of your customers.

01:50:11 And they said...

01:50:12 And I remember this like it was yesterday, reading this decades ago,

01:50:17 how essential it is to fire your customers.

01:50:19 You must go identify those customers that cost you more than they bring in

01:50:22 and fire them ruthlessly and relentlessly,

01:50:24 because otherwise they'll drag everything down.

01:50:25 Trying to find the quality comments

01:50:38 and the quality questions in a tsunami of weird dissociated abuse

01:50:43 and torrents of nonsense and distractions and links to hate sites

01:50:48 and trying to concentrate on doing great positive work

01:50:52 in this tsunami of nonsense that would come with a larger audience.

01:50:56 And I've been there.

01:50:57 Listen, I'm not talking about something I don't know about.

01:51:00 But why not use it for rare announcements like the new peaceful parenting book?

01:51:05 Ah, but don't you want to help children?

01:51:07 Do you understand?

01:51:08 This is just bribery.

01:51:10 My God, stop bribing me.

01:51:12 And stop bribing people as a whole.

01:51:16 Come on, I've been patient about this.

01:51:18 Oh, but what about the children?

01:51:21 You've got to help the kids.

01:51:25 Stop bribing me.

01:51:26 It demeans us both.

01:51:28 I've got principles here.

01:51:32 You can argue me out of the principles, but stop bribing me

01:51:35 and stop bribing me with regards to helping children.

01:51:38 You know how tough that is.

01:51:40 That's unfair.

01:51:41 That's wrong.

01:51:45 I've made moral arguments.

01:51:48 Find a way to overthrow them.

01:51:49 I'd be thrilled if you do.

01:51:50 But what about the children is not an argument.

01:51:53 That's a torture device.

01:51:54 It's cruel.

01:51:55 You don't know I don't think I'd love to help the kids?

01:51:58 Of course, that's what I'm all about.

01:51:59 You think I'm helping the kids by compromising my moral values?

01:52:02 I don't think so.

01:52:05 So stop.

01:52:05 And I'm saying this out of frustration because I know this is what you're doing

01:52:09 in your life as a whole.

01:52:11 Stop bribing people and certainly stop dangling in front of them

01:52:22 that which they treasure in order to manipulate them as a whole in your life.

01:52:26 Because I've said now this has been the bribery thing and help the kids

01:52:31 and you've got to help the kids has been like I've had like 10 of these over the course.

01:52:36 And it's like you're not just listening.

01:52:37 You're not listening.

01:52:39 Break your values to do good is the oldest fucking temptation in the book.

01:52:46 Destroy your virtue in order to do good.

01:52:49 The ends justify the means.

01:52:55 Give up your virtues.

01:52:57 Give up your values.

01:52:58 And do good.

01:53:01 Socrates, you should just agree with those who say you are an atheist who corrupts the young.

01:53:07 You should just agree with them because think of all the people you can talk about

01:53:12 with philosophy later on.

01:53:13 Can you go on the Tom Woods show instead?

01:53:19 Let me check my inbox for invitations on the Tom Woods show.

01:53:22 Yeah, I mean, my God.

01:53:27 I mean, I understand it's cruel.

01:53:30 It's cruel to say, well, you could help more kids, Steph.

01:53:32 Just give up your virtues and your values.

01:53:34 Betray all the listeners you've told to not be in abusive relationships.

01:53:38 Just, you know, just help the children, help the children, help the children.

01:53:42 But you can ask him if you can go on instead.

01:53:48 Why?

01:53:52 Why would I?

01:53:52 I mean, I like Tom, but why would I do that?

01:53:55 Why would I?

01:53:56 Why would I do that?

01:53:58 See, you have to ask yourself, why are you so compelled to get me to break principle?

01:54:05 Why do you want me to do that?

01:54:07 Why is it so important for you to do that?

01:54:11 That's important.

01:54:12 That's an essential question.

01:54:13 Why is it so important for you to get me back on Twitter?

01:54:20 Why is it so essential for you to get me to break principle?

01:54:25 For you to get me to break principle.

01:54:27 This is for the people in the audience here, too, and the people listening.

01:54:31 Why?

01:54:33 I know why.

01:54:35 I know why.

01:54:38 But you need to ask yourself why.

01:54:49 Why is it so important for you that you'll dangle in front of me the thing I want to do the most,

01:54:55 which is to help the children?

01:54:56 Why would you want to dangle that in front of me, which is cruel, to get me to break principle?

01:55:03 Why do you need that so much?

01:55:09 What is it about me holding the principle that tortures you?

01:55:17 Why would you want to torture me by dangling the thing I want the most,

01:55:19 which is to help the children?

01:55:21 Why does it torture you?

01:55:22 Just read the fountainhead for this.

01:55:23 You don't need to write.

01:55:24 Just read the fountainhead.

01:55:25 Why does it torture you that I'm holding the principle?

01:55:28 Why?

01:55:31 Because you know how to get me to change my mind.

01:55:41 How do you get me to change my mind?

01:55:43 How do you get me to change my mind?

01:55:45 How do you get me to change my mind?

01:55:46 How do you get me to change my mind?

01:55:47 How do you get me to change my mind?

01:55:48 How do you get me to go back on Twitter or whatever you want me to do?

01:55:54 How do you get me to do that?

01:55:55 It's not complicated.

01:55:56 Yes, prove me wrong.

01:56:02 Make better arguments.

01:56:03 Address my arguments.

01:56:04 Tell me how I'm wrong.

01:56:05 So when I've openly stated here's the reasons why I'm doing something,

01:56:11 and it's a moral principle for me,

01:56:18 and you know exactly how to change my mind,

01:56:20 but you bribe and threaten instead,

01:56:22 you won't have any credibility with good people.

01:56:27 Like you won't have credibility with good people if you resort--

01:56:32 when somebody says reason with me and you resort to threats and bribes.

01:56:35 Why do you want to do that?

01:56:37 It's like the girl says, "Hey, just ask me out.

01:56:45 I'll go on a date with you."

01:56:46 And you're like, "No, I'm going to kidnap you instead."

01:56:48 Why?

01:56:51 She's already said she's going to go out with you.

01:56:53 I've already told you how you change my mind.

01:56:55 I'm not wed to a position.

01:56:58 I'm wed to a process of moral reasoning.

01:57:00 Peter Keating tried to bribe Howard Rock, yeah.

01:57:04 Why does it trouble you that I'm not on Twitter?

01:57:08 Oh, it's for the good of the kids.

01:57:10 No, no, no, no.

01:57:11 Come on.

01:57:12 Come on.

01:57:13 Come on.

01:57:15 Come on.

01:57:16 No, it's not that.

01:57:22 Because if you really cared that much for the good of kids,

01:57:24 you'd be out there running conferences on peaceful parenting

01:57:28 and you'd be out there writing your own books and art.

01:57:31 It's not about that.

01:57:31 I'd rather you go on with people like Alex Jones who stands on principle.

01:57:40 He has had you on after banning.

01:57:42 Alex Jones has never done you wrong or the audience.

01:57:44 Principles matter.

01:57:45 But I'm not doing politics.

01:57:47 And Alex Jones is a political guy.

01:57:49 He's a politics guy.

01:57:50 And honestly, I did other people's shows for like 15 years.

01:57:55 And I have no regrets about it.

01:57:58 I think it was great and enjoyable.

01:57:59 But you know, I got to tell you,

01:58:04 I don't mean to overly praise you guys or anything like that.

01:58:08 I'm just being honest about it.

01:58:09 You'd have to work pretty hard to sell me something better than tonight.

01:58:14 Did you see what I mean?

01:58:15 You'd have to work pretty hard to say to me,

01:58:27 "Well, you know, these live streams that you do with great questions and funny

01:58:31 and engaging and warm and passionate and powerful and virtuous and interesting and like...

01:58:36 Tell me how going on somebody else's show is going to be better than this."

01:58:43 Right?

01:58:44 Why go out for steak?

01:58:49 Sorry, why go out for hamburger when you have steak at home?

01:58:51 I mean, tell me what's better than this?

01:58:54 If I could think of something better than this, I'd be doing that.

01:59:02 Thanks, Chris.

01:59:05 Chris says, "I think you're producing phenomenal content here.

01:59:07 Some great content has come out of these live streams."

01:59:09 I don't know what the up...

01:59:11 Like, you know, I got married to my wife and I was like,

01:59:13 "Well, I'm not going to upgrade from this.

01:59:14 And isn't this like what we're doing here?

01:59:17 What's the upgrade from here?

01:59:20 What's the upgrade?

01:59:22 I'm happy to hear.

01:59:25 I think because we love you and want to show you off like a man with a beautiful girl.

01:59:41 I appreciate that thought.

01:59:42 But I'm not an object in that kind of way.

01:59:51 If you want to show me off, show off your own virtues in your own life and don't even mention

01:59:58 me, that's the best way to show me off.

02:00:00 Live in a way with integrity and curiosity and passion and sympathy and virtue and empathy.

02:00:06 Live in a way that's just admirable and noble to people.

02:00:09 And I know you do.

02:00:09 So I'm not saying that you don't.

02:00:11 But I don't want you to show me off.

02:00:14 I want you to show off philosophy, the power, the grace, the depth, and the beauty of truth

02:00:20 and reason and virtue.

02:00:21 You show off that glorious virtue and the inspiring fiery wings that it can unfold in

02:00:29 your heart and in your life, throwing evil into sharp shadows of deep relief.

02:00:34 Passing the torch of virtue to those around you through inspiration.

02:00:39 It's like, let's say I've written a great diet book and it's like, "Well, I want to

02:00:43 show off Steph's abs."

02:00:44 It's like, "No, show off your abs, not mine."

02:00:47 That's why I'm doing this publicly.

02:00:49 I already have enough virtue in my life.

02:00:51 I'm doing this publicly so you all can get the benefit.

02:00:53 Don't show me off, show yourself off.

02:00:56 So I appreciate the thought.

02:01:06 It's very kind and I appreciate the thought.

02:01:08 I don't ask my jujitsu fighter to fight for me.

02:01:15 He's taught me to fight for myself.

02:01:16 I think so.

02:01:17 We are at the top with this show and we're growing together.

02:01:25 Spending lots of time watching other shows feels like missing out on growth opportunity.

02:01:28 Thanks, Steph.

02:01:29 Thank you.

02:01:29 I appreciate that.

02:01:30 I agree with your argument, but I have an edgy reaction to not giving you big ups, Steph.

02:01:33 Listen, I appreciate the praise.

02:01:35 I'm not going to be like, "Oh, it's nothing."

02:01:37 I think I'm doing great work.

02:01:38 I know I'm doing great work.

02:01:39 I'm very proud of the work that I'm doing.

02:01:41 I swear to great gods above that I feel more in the flow now than I've ever felt before in my life.

02:01:49 This is like, I did a show this morning.

02:01:52 I did a show with my daughter today.

02:01:54 I did another show this afternoon answering locals' questions.

02:01:56 I'm doing two plus hours here.

02:01:58 I feel more in the flow with eloquence, comedy, depth, passion, power, clarity.

02:02:04 I feel more in the flow now than I've ever felt before.

02:02:07 The Peaceful Parenting book is finally erupting.

02:02:10 As a subscriber, that's certainly my perception of you too.

02:02:13 So I'm getting better.

02:02:14 The shows are getting better.

02:02:15 I was pretty damn good to begin with.

02:02:16 I'm getting better.

02:02:17 The shows are getting better.

02:02:18 I've got enough money to live on.

02:02:19 Thank you guys so much.

02:02:21 Appreciate your support.

02:02:21 Freedomend.com/donate if you'd like to help out.

02:02:24 What could be better?

02:02:27 I'm loving the access we have to you now.

02:02:30 Direct conversation has been awesome.

02:02:32 Yes.

02:02:32 What could be better than this?

02:02:35 Yes.

02:02:35 Monogamy to core supporters is the most fertile marriage we have.

02:02:44 Monogamy to core supporters is the most fertile marriage we have.

02:02:48 And the closer and deeper you and I get in these conversations,

02:02:53 the longer this conversation and these conversations will last into the future.

02:02:57 Come on.

02:03:00 How many people a thousand years from now are going to be watching my interview

02:03:04 with person XYZ from 2014?

02:03:07 The depth of this conversation is the height of the light in the sky.

02:03:16 It's going to be visible from the furthest, the highest it is.

02:03:22 Does this make sense?

02:03:22 Barbecuing with you would be better?

02:03:25 Well, that sounds a little sinister.

02:03:27 No, I'm just kidding.

02:03:27 That would be nice.

02:03:28 But it makes sense, right?

02:03:29 The depth and passion and power and connection of these conversations

02:03:34 is what will last the test of time.

02:03:36 First time I was on here, I was shocked.

02:03:39 You were reading all comments.

02:03:40 I've watched you for years before.

02:03:42 Never thought it would be this intimate.

02:03:43 Isn't this cool?

02:03:44 This is the good stuff.

02:03:47 This is the good stuff.

02:03:49 This is the stuff that will last.

02:03:51 Again, I have a 500-year business plan at least.

02:03:54 It's a 500-year business plan.

02:03:56 This is the stuff that's going to last.

02:03:57 Not another, oh my God, the Federal Reserve deficit is really big.

02:04:03 I did all that.

02:04:05 It was fun.

02:04:06 It was fine.

02:04:06 And no regrets about it.

02:04:07 A lot of big streamers see every 100th message.

02:04:11 Well, if this was some waterfall, I don't know.

02:04:14 This to me is the best it can be.

02:04:18 This to me is the best it can be.

02:04:23 And people are like, yes, but you could engage with a lot of indifferent,

02:04:29 neutral, concern troll haters.

02:04:32 On Twitter.

02:04:33 Okay.

02:04:35 It says, I have other people who delve into shallow waters on subjects.

02:04:44 Now I try to get them to go deep, not with any success.

02:04:46 But I do try.

02:04:48 I have a light in the dark.

02:04:49 God commands us not to hide our light under a bushel.

02:04:51 Right.

02:04:51 And that's so other people with light can find you, not so you spend your time

02:04:55 chasing the moles into the darkness.

02:04:57 All right.

02:04:59 Any last donations?

02:05:00 I think we've done some great work here tonight.

02:05:02 Any last donations or comments?

02:05:05 What is the purpose of praise?

02:05:06 I get intense anxiety when people praise me.

02:05:08 When I got my latest raise from work, I wept in my car.

02:05:10 A lot of times the purpose of praise is to train you into obedience.

02:05:15 Good boy.

02:05:17 Good doggy.

02:05:18 So my guess is that you were praised for conformity rather than virtue.

02:05:24 And therefore you are nervous about praise.

02:05:25 A few more likes guys.

02:05:28 Come on, get those likes up.

02:05:30 Get those likes up.

02:05:31 Like index fingers in the middle of a banker's conference.

02:05:36 Just waiting for any last tips to roll in.

02:05:48 I can only do it once per night.

02:05:49 I guess you're not 20 anymore.

02:05:51 All right.

02:05:55 Thank you so much.

02:05:57 Really appreciate that.

02:05:58 Josh.

02:06:00 Do you encourage some people to stop listening to you?

02:06:02 Oh, I don't need to do that.

02:06:05 No, I don't need to do that.

02:06:06 Looking forward to the next 80 minute rant about not returning to Twitter.

02:06:11 Well, you know it's not about that, right?

02:06:12 Like, subscribe.

02:06:14 Thank you so much guys.

02:06:16 People are in the middle of typing some big thing.

02:06:19 I hate cutting people off.

02:06:20 I really do.

02:06:20 But great show.

02:06:25 Yes, you guys are fantastic.

02:06:27 What a great privilege it is to spend the evening with you.

02:06:30 And lots of love from up here.

02:06:33 Thank you so much, Michael.

02:06:34 That's very kind.

02:06:35 I really, really appreciate that.

02:06:37 And I love you guys so much.

02:06:39 Look forward, if you're a donor and a sub.

02:06:42 Actually, oh no, we can't.

02:06:46 We don't have that ready yet.

02:06:47 But yeah, if you're a subscriber, please check out the post live stream.

02:06:54 Please like and get this to 100 likes.

02:06:56 Yes, please.

02:06:57 Yeah, so please check out freedom.com/books.

02:07:00 Listen to my books.

02:07:01 The novels in particular, I think are fantastic.

02:07:03 And you will get the truth about the Wild West with great visuals and a great soundtrack.

02:07:09 Audio, music and everything.

02:07:11 It's really, really cool.

02:07:12 And thank you so much for a wonderful show tonight.

02:07:16 I will see you guys on my B-day.

02:07:18 My BJ day.

02:07:20 On my B-day.

02:07:21 On my birthday in two days at 11 o'clock.

02:07:24 For our European friends on the 24th of September.

02:07:28 Lots of love.

02:07:28 Take care, everyone.

02:07:30 Bye.

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