Is Fawad Hasan Fawad's appointment related to Nawaz's return??
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00:00 Hassan, why do you think the election commission got this information so late?
00:04 People's Party is also talking about this.
00:08 You know that the contactor, Fawad Hassan Fawad or Hathima sir,
00:15 are not bureaucrats, they are part of the government.
00:20 So, are they really the caretakers?
00:28 No, the caretakers, the prime ministers are definitely not a part of the Muslim League,
00:32 the finance minister or the foreign minister,
00:37 the important ministers are all independent people.
00:41 But there are a few people who are definitely present.
00:44 Now, the question that has come to this,
00:46 that you talked about Hathima sir,
00:48 so the election is to be done by the bureaucrats.
00:50 And the bureaucrats are reporting at that time,
00:54 the election commission is reporting.
00:55 But still, if there are any issues in this regard,
00:58 if there are any reservations,
00:59 then the political party that has reservations,
01:01 should file an in writing complaint with the election commission.
01:04 The election commission has written a letter itself,
01:08 as you are telling, to the prime minister.
01:11 So, the thing to see now is that the prime minister reacts to it.
01:16 If there is any grievance of anyone,
01:18 then it has to be agitated,
01:20 the complaint has to be expressed.
01:22 So far, neither the Pakistan Law and Order,
01:25 nor the Pakistan People's Party, nor the JUAF,
01:27 no political party has written a complaint in writing to the election commission.
01:31 So, when this complaint will be filed,
01:33 then we will see how the election commission reacts.
01:35 And you will have to file a complaint with the government.
01:38 Listen, Hassan, we will talk about this,
01:39 when the basic things are determined in the constitution,
01:43 the rules of the game have to be followed.
01:45 Chaudhry Ghulam Sahin sir,
01:47 what do you think,
01:49 when Fawad Hassan Fawad is appointed,
01:52 obviously, he says,
01:53 when the cases of the Naib against him are filed,
01:56 that because I was with the respected Nawaz Sharif,
02:00 and obviously, I was victimized because of that.
02:03 Ahad Cheema sir,
02:04 obviously, he has some connection with the Noon League,
02:07 so when he resigned,
02:09 then immediately he got the ministry from the government,
02:12 in the previous government as well as in this government.
02:15 Chaudhry sir,
02:16 so you are the former bureaucrat of both these groups?
02:20 No, these are not two,
02:21 Khawar Govind sir,
02:22 No, sir, you are the one who has all the things in front of you.
02:24 All the people of this cabinet,
02:26 Fawad Hassan Fawad,
02:29 Ahad Cheema,
02:30 Umar Saif,
02:31 Ayesha Raza Farooq,
02:33 I mean, if you read this list,
02:36 almost directly or indirectly,
02:39 all these people are from the Noon League or some other party,
02:43 and this is not appropriate,
02:45 and to get free, fair, impartial elections,
02:48 they will not play the role of a government.
02:52 This is a party then,
02:54 and similarly,
02:56 I have no personal dispute with anyone.
02:58 No, we have no personal dispute with anyone.
03:00 Obviously, we are talking about facts and figures.
03:03 No, no, Shahid Ashraf Talar,
03:06 you know him as well,
03:08 we are looking at the connections.
03:10 In which all parties.
03:11 I have said that all the people in each cabinet,
03:15 and all the parties that are there,
03:17 they are all from the Noon League.
03:19 Fawad Hassan Fawad,
03:21 and when Nawaz Sharif is being announced,
03:24 that he is their Fatihana rival,
03:26 he will come to Pakistan,
03:28 and he can only save Pakistan.
03:30 If he does not come, Pakistan will be drowned.
03:33 So, at that time,
03:35 to put justice means,
03:37 that they are being given comfort,
03:39 that Mr. Mian, come,
03:41 tell everyone,
03:42 we are coming after passing the Jihad,
03:44 you should receive us.
03:46 Okay, Mr. Niazi,
03:48 Anwar Ul Haq Qaqert,
03:50 he is from the Bani,
03:52 he is from the Bani,
03:53 he left his seat of the Senate,
03:55 and then he resigned from the basic membership.
03:59 But, I think,
04:01 the Minister of Interest is also a Senator,
04:03 and he is also a part of the party.
04:05 The question is,
04:07 what is Mr. Hassan saying,
04:09 that there should be a vetting process,
04:12 or is it not necessary,
04:13 until unless someone complains,
04:15 that this person is related to that party,
04:18 or if someone raises an issue,
04:19 then only they have to take action,
04:21 like it happened in KP.
04:23 Look, in your bill,
04:25 all the guidance is there,
04:27 the Election Commission,
04:29 either it can take action on its own,
04:31 and read the Election Act,
04:33 or on complaint of any aggrieved party.
04:36 So, because it is their responsibility,
04:38 they have to ensure,
04:39 it is a level playing field,
04:40 it is a free and fair election,
04:42 and you are not seeing any partiality on any side.
04:45 So, if here,
04:47 look, Ah Chima Sir is very respected,
04:50 Fawad Hassan Fawad Sir is also very respected,
04:52 you counted more people,
04:54 once they retire,
04:55 they are not bureaucrats,
04:56 they are linked to the political party,
04:58 they were advisors to Shivaj Sharif Sir,
05:01 so you will not say that they were bureaucrats,
05:03 they were linked to the party,
05:06 they were part and parcel of it.
05:08 So, you should expect,
05:10 I am not saying that they are not doing it,
05:12 they are doing a very independent work,
05:14 but the judgment of the Supreme Court on conflict of interest,
05:17 what is that?
05:18 It is that you should not get the impression
05:21 that there is a conflict here.
05:23 So, here I see a conflict of interest,
05:25 that you are part of a party,
05:27 you will not do it,
05:28 but the presumption will be that
05:30 you will give a favour.
05:32 The question is how many ministers are there,
05:34 they are in the government,
05:35 and Punjab is the government.
05:36 I am saying that no one should be involved,
05:38 the election commission has written a good letter,
05:40 if they have done this,
05:41 but the matter will not end with the letter,
05:43 they have to take action,
05:44 action will happen when people will see
05:46 that there is a favour being done,
05:47 then you will see some ground also,
05:49 but a person from a party,
05:51 look, there is no legitimacy in the law,
05:53 in the constitution,
05:54 any person can become a terrorist,
05:56 but there are some things,
05:57 that are moral,
05:58 which govern your society,
05:59 govern your government,
06:00 because of this you are seeing a conflict of interest,
06:03 so point such people,
06:04 that tomorrow on election,
06:05 if a question is notified,
06:06 that you facilitate a party,
06:08 you will get an impression that this is a king's party,
06:10 so what will happen after that,
06:12 the result will be that you will raise questions on the process,
06:14 the election commission will sleep like a toothless tiger,