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Elizabeth Smart Reflects On Her Journey Since 2002 Abduction

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00:00 You beautifully, very eloquently posted
00:02 about the 20th anniversary milestone of your rescue
00:05 and you said, "I'm so grateful for my experiences
00:07 "and the path it has led me down."
00:09 How have you gotten to that really
00:12 incredible place of gratitude?
00:14 - When I go back and almost reverse my story
00:17 and look at the different paths it's taken me,
00:20 then I try to imagine what my life would've been
00:23 had I never been kidnapped.
00:25 I just feel like chances are
00:27 I wouldn't have met my husband,
00:29 which meant I wouldn't have the children that I have.
00:32 I wouldn't be involved in something in this work,
00:34 in this cause of anti-sexual exploitation
00:37 that I feel so incredibly passionate about,
00:40 although I'd never want to repeat it.
00:41 I'm not sorry it happened to me
00:43 because I wouldn't have this life otherwise.
00:46 - You know, your Instagram bio acknowledges yourself
00:49 as a survivor, a mother, a wife.
00:52 I'm curious to know, motherhood,
00:54 how has that most changed your life?
00:56 - I had no idea how hard it was going to be.
00:59 Before having kids, I mean, I came from a large family.
01:02 I was always like, "It's okay, I've got this."
01:04 And then I had my own kids and I'm like,
01:06 "I know I got this."
01:07 I love you more than anything, but I'm so tired.
01:09 - We have a new student in the class.
01:13 Please welcome Elizabeth Thomas.
01:16 - Now, Elizabeth Smart is executive producing
01:18 the new Lifetime movie,
01:19 "Abducted by My Teacher, The Elizabeth Thomas Story."
01:23 Thomas was only 15 years old when she was kidnapped
01:25 by a respected teacher in the community.
01:28 After a month-long nationwide search,
01:30 they were found and Elizabeth was returned home.
01:33 Smart is also executive producing a documentary
01:35 on Thomas's entire experience.
01:37 In what ways did you connect with her?
01:39 - Although our stories are different,
01:42 there are a lot of similarities.
01:45 I mean, her story had national attention.
01:48 - Had Cummins arrested in Northern California
01:51 and Elizabeth Thomas safe?
01:53 - My story had national attention.
01:55 - Elizabeth Smart is apparently alive.
01:58 - And she's told me how people have reacted to her
02:02 in her community.
02:04 And it has, they haven't always been positive,
02:07 which to me is heartbreaking
02:09 because for the vast majority,
02:11 I have always had so much support
02:13 and I haven't been doubted.
02:15 Whereas Elizabeth Thomas,
02:18 she has been accused of seducing her teacher.
02:21 That is so unfair for her.
02:25 - And of course, Elizabeth's mission now
02:27 is to prevent these horrible stories
02:29 from happening in the first place.
02:30 - What's one easy tip that you would give to parents
02:33 to keep their kids safe?
02:34 - I'd say talk to them.
02:35 - Talk to them.
02:36 - Talk to them.
02:37 Help them to know that they can come and tell you anything
02:41 and that you aren't going to overreact.
02:46 - Please welcome Elizabeth Thomas.
02:48 - Tell me a little bit about what stood out
02:50 about Elizabeth's story.
02:52 What made you feel like this was one
02:53 that you wanted to share?
02:54 - Well, I remember when it happened.
02:55 I mean, I remember watching it through the news.
02:57 I remember watching when she was rescued.
02:59 - Had Cummins arrested in Northern California
03:02 and Elizabeth Thomas safe.
03:04 - I remember even that for me to some degree triggered
03:08 what it was like when I was rescued.
03:10 And I remember just kind of almost reliving
03:14 what I experienced,
03:15 just kind of thinking about what she was going through.
03:18 And then a couple of years ago, our paths crossed
03:21 and she had started talking to me,
03:23 doing some kind of project like this.
03:25 I was like, well, like I've done this before.
03:29 Like, if you want to do it with me,
03:31 because I feel like I have been on the other end
03:34 where I've looked at things that have been portrayed about me
03:37 and I've been like, that's not right.
03:40 - That's not accurate.
03:41 - That's not accurate.
03:42 And I never want any other survivor to feel that way.
03:47 And so she has been a huge voice over this whole project.
03:52 - I see myself fighting for other victims
03:55 and being a support person.
03:59 - You also paired her with the documentary.
04:01 Why was that important to do?
04:03 I think it was a very empowering thing
04:06 for her to sit down and talk about what happened
04:09 in her own words,
04:10 and really being able to dive a little bit deeper
04:12 into grooming.
04:13 She was vulnerable when she first entered this situation.
04:17 The teacher who was alerted to her vulnerability
04:21 exploited that vulnerability.
04:24 And it was almost a classic case of grooming
04:27 where it was just initially so innocent, just befriending.
04:31 And then it just grew and grew and grew
04:34 until eventually he kidnapped her.
04:35 - Where do you see yourself 10 years from now?
04:39 - I want to help other people get where I am
04:41 in my healing journey and not have those daily triggers
04:45 or those daily panic attacks.
04:47 - She wanted other survivors or other victims
04:50 to know that they're not alone
04:52 and that you can move forward and you can overcome.
04:56 - Has Elizabeth seen it?
04:58 - So she actually, like me,
05:02 she can't just sit and watch it from beginning to end.
05:05 And I felt the same way with my movie, with my documentary.
05:09 I mean, I said it was the best worst movie I ever saw.
05:13 I mean, it was so accurate that it was terrible.
05:17 And I think I could say Elizabeth Thomas felt the same way.
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