Why WWE Vs AEW PPV Will Never Happen

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00:00 Why am I even doing this video?

00:02 Do you know what happens to me when I go outside these days?

00:06 It's not fun, people call me an asshole.

00:13 Leave me alone, alright?

00:14 Leave me alone.

00:15 See?

00:16 And I'm not going to pretend it doesn't bother me.

00:17 Words hurt.

00:18 But yes, the idea of a WWE and AEW pay-per-view was actually discussed this week by none other

00:23 than Tony Khan after he was asked about it when he appeared on the Ringer podcast.

00:27 And this is one of the reasons that I love this man.

00:30 You can throw any kind of question at him and he will entertain it in an interesting

00:35 manner because he said, and I quote, "I'm not sure if that's going to happen, but I

00:38 would be open to talking about that type of thing.

00:42 It's not crazy, but it's a bold prediction."

00:45 So there's a man who has remembered you never say never at wrestling.

00:48 I am not a smart-o, obviously, look at me.

00:52 So I am saying there will never be a WWE and AEW joint pay-per-view.

00:57 Here's why.

00:58 Now the first problem is that neither side would be able to agree on what they were going

01:09 to call it.

01:10 I mean, WWE would be going premium live event and AEW would be going pay-per-view.

01:14 So before we even got the damn thing off the ground, everybody would be bickering.

01:18 On a more serious note though, it's actually because Vince McMahon, if you can believe

01:23 it, had been offered this before with basically no strings attached and Vince turned around

01:29 and said no.

01:30 I am of course talking about WCW and while we got a kind of version of that in 2001,

01:34 but that doesn't count, this all goes back to the days when Jim Hurd was running World

01:38 Championship Wrestling and because he was more business focused than he was wrestling

01:42 focused, he thought, well I know how we can make a ton of money.

01:45 Why don't we do WWF versus WCW?

01:48 As we know, McMahon does not think this way though and the WWF has to beat everybody else

01:53 up.

01:54 So even though Hurd said to him, "Vinny, I will let you have full control", meaning

02:00 that Vince McMahon could decide on all the wins and all the losses, he was still all

02:04 like it's a negatory.

02:05 So all of his guys could have gone over, they could have won in about 8.2 seconds, although

02:09 I'm sure they would have chatted that one out, but just because once again he wants

02:13 those three initials to be bigger than everything else and he wouldn't degrade himself by teaming

02:18 up with someone else, he wouldn't do it.

02:20 Now this was 30 years ago, but go and watch the WWE product today, do you really think

02:25 much has changed?

02:26 And I would say the answer is no.

02:28 Even though we are in 2022, if McMahon could have it his way, he would still go around

02:34 and crush everybody into dust while shouting, "well it's not my fault, it's just what's

02:38 good for the industry".

02:39 I mean it would be awesome, but let's say we now put Tony Khan and Vince McMahon in

02:42 the same room with this mentality in mind, do you really think there's going to be a

02:46 conversation where it's like, "oh maybe Kenny Omega can go over Roman Reigns, or

02:50 Wardlow can beat Randy Orton?"

02:52 Of course there's not.

02:53 Now I'm getting excited thinking about it, because I'm a mega nerd, especially with

02:56 the Cody Rhodes tie-in, oh my gosh, that would be incredible.

03:00 Sometimes you've got to be a negative Nancy and I just can't see it going down.

03:03 So I am sorry to be the pallbearer of bad news, but there is more evidence for this,

03:07 because actually in 1990, WWF did change their minds and they said, "oh hey old Japan,

03:12 hey new Japan, why don't we do a mega show?"

03:15 And this went down in the Tokyo Dome, and it was a success, but honestly, when you go

03:19 and read about what happened before and what happened afterwards, well it was a little

03:24 bit of a mess.

03:25 The twist is, the event itself was actually alright, although you did get lots of stuff,

03:28 like the WWF Champion, the Ultimate Warrior, taking on Ted DiBiase, the Million Dollar

03:33 Man, because once again they couldn't come to an agreement here, so we just had WWF matches.

03:38 This did balance out though, because Hulk Hogan defeated Stan Hanson, Tenryu beat Randy

03:43 Savage and Bret Hart went to a draw with none other than Tiger Mask.

03:47 So this was like Christmas, it was so crazy, but again, everything around it just left

03:52 all parties to go, "nah I don't want to do it again."

03:54 We still did get another relationship with another Japanese company, this time Super

03:57 World of Sports, but they were so small compared to the WWF, they weren't going to kick off,

04:03 so once again Vince McMahon knew he had all the power, and it was different because he

04:08 wanted to grow his brand in the East.

04:10 And yes, to the geeks amongst you, like my good self, it was on one of the year's events

04:19 when Katow was wrestling Earthquake and halfway through the match just told everyone, "oh

04:24 yeah, by the way, wrestling's fake" and then he tried to shoot on John Tenter.

04:28 If you don't know that story, google it right now, it's going to blow your mind.

04:32 Zoom forward a few years and it did kind of happen again, we had an exception because

04:35 ECW guys started turning up on Raw, but when you read about this, one, McMahon basically

04:41 saw them as a developmental territory, and two, he thought they were no threat whatsoever

04:47 and actually it would benefit to him because he could send his young up and coming stars

04:51 to go and get some work.

04:52 It also meant you had the likes of Taz and RVD going the other way, but every single

04:56 time they've made an appearance, they've talked about this, they had their backs up because

05:00 they felt like everybody else was just going to bury them.

05:03 Does that sound like a good working relationship?

05:05 No.

05:06 And even when you get two parties that are happy to work with each other, such as Ring

05:09 of Honor and New Japan, which was a pretty successful relationship for a long time, there

05:14 are still issues.

05:15 Do you remember that Madison Square Garden show in 2019?

05:19 Believe you me, when it came to officials, not everyone was happy.

05:21 And this extended out to fans as well, because we all remember the conversation of people

05:25 going, "oh man, this match went too long, and why was that match there?"

05:29 And again, it was because people were going tit for tat, because they wanted to make sure

05:33 that their promotion didn't look like a pile of crap.

05:36 Obviously since then, AEW and NJPW have smashed it with things like Forbidden Door and a bunch

05:40 of surprise appearances, but you could also make the debate that maybe, just maybe, if

05:45 New Japan hadn't been really damaged by the pandemic, they never would have done this.

05:49 And even if Vince McMahon was in the same boat, he would rather sink his ship than reach

05:54 out for some help.

05:55 Meaning if he does get moved to one side, which probably should happen by the time you

05:59 are seeing this, I think there's such a culture that just run through the hallways of world

06:04 wrestling entertainment, that even the successor would be like, "no, we're above these jabrones,

06:10 we do our own thing."

06:11 I mean, it'd be like Disney reaching out to Netflix.

06:13 It's not going to happen.

06:14 And do not get me wrong, I want this to happen more than anything in my entire life, to the

06:20 point I sat down and thought about it, and I have come up with a 10 match card that I'm

06:25 going to share with you right now.

06:26 Number 1 - The New Day vs The Young Bucks.

06:28 Number 2 - Drew McIntyre vs Wardlow.

06:31 Number 3 - Thunder Rosa vs Sasha Banks.

06:33 Wink wink nudge nudge, maybe happening soon.

06:35 Number 4 - Roman Reigns vs Kenny Omae.

06:38 Number 5 - John Moxley vs Seth Rollins, because I'm that guy.

06:41 Number 6 - The Street Profits vs The Lucha Brothers.

06:43 Number 7 - Hangman Adam Page, and I mean it, vs Baron Corbin.

06:47 Number 8 - Becky Lynch vs Britt Baker.

06:49 Number 9 - AJ Styles vs MJF.

06:53 And Number 10 - Orange Cassidy vs Sami Zayn.

06:57 So that's a good way to finish.

06:58 You're now flipping out in the comments saying, "Simon, how could you not mention this person,

07:02 and how could you not mention this match?"

07:04 That's the whole point, man.

07:06 Bro.

07:07 Dude.

07:08 Lady.

07:09 Kid.

07:10 Auntie.

07:11 I want to stoke your fires, and I want you to get commenting.

07:13 It's called being on YouTube.

07:15 Now please do leave a comment below and let us know, seriously, what do you think about

07:18 this?

07:19 Could we ever see a WWE vs AEW PPV, a joint one where they're both working together?

07:24 And if so, what should be the card?

07:26 And also, what should be the win percentage?

07:28 Because you have to imagine it's going to have to be 50% one side, and 50% the other

07:32 side, and how the flub do you get away with that?

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07:40 you come follow us on social media @whatculturewwe and @simonat316.

07:44 And look, we've got a ton of videos like this where we're just trying to have fun.

07:49 Don't take it too seriously, because that's not the point.

07:51 Go check them out.

07:52 My name is Simon from What Culture.

07:53 Thank you for joining me as always.

07:54 And I will say, given that we did bring up the Invasion briefly, I actually think you

07:59 would get a better show when you have separate company and separate company.

08:02 Because the problem when WCW was folded into WWE was that for the last five or six years,

08:09 WWE fans have been told that WCW is a pile of crap.

08:13 If those guys came over here, we'd whoop them.

08:15 So when it was time to pull the trigger, they didn't have anybody in their corner, so they

08:20 got whooped.

08:21 If you had someone like a Tony Khan, he could be like, "No, I'm going to put in some protection

08:25 here."

08:26 Well, you take my point.

08:28 But again, I wouldn't hold your breath, mostly because you'll die.

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