ALL TRUTHS LIVESTREAM!

Name: ALL TRUTHS LIVESTREAM!
Uploaded: 2023-07-29T15:55:46+00:00
Duration: 2 h 7 min 6 s
Channel: Stefan Molyneux

00:00:00 So you know how the Peaceful Parenting book is coming along. I have 102 pages, 42,000 words.

00:00:07 Obviously it's a raw and incredibly angry first draft. Oh my gosh, I am kicking over some bedrock of anger right about now.

00:00:19 And that's fine, and that's okay. But I'm telling you, it's pretty good.

00:00:25 It's pretty good. All right, let me just get to your questions and comments.

00:00:30 All right, we'll start right away.

00:00:33 Good evening. Hope it is okay that I post this now since I won't make it to the actual live stream.

00:00:37 You recently talked about self-destructive thoughts.

00:00:40 Mine would be that nobody would ever care what I have to say anyway, so I never do anything.

00:00:47 I know this comes from neglect.

00:00:51 But what would be your suggestion to deal with it?

00:00:55 I can't talk to my parents since they disowned and slandered me after I confronted them.

00:00:58 If this topic is finished for you, so to say, just ignore the question.

00:01:02 Oh, sorry, I don't mean to laugh at you.

00:01:06 I don't mean to laugh at you.

00:01:08 But it's just kind of funny when you say, "Well, nobody's ever going to care what I have to say."

00:01:12 But if this topic's finished, just ignore me. Just ignore me.

00:01:16 Don't worry, just ignore me.

00:01:19 Okay, so look.

00:01:24 Do you know that child abuse does not cause dysfunction?

00:01:29 All right, I'm just going to go straight up and talk to you guys directly.

00:01:32 Do you know that child abuse does not cause dysfunction?

00:01:39 Child abuse does not cause dysfunction.

00:01:41 It's a common misperception that child abuse causes dysfunction.

00:01:49 Hit me with a "why" if you believe that child abuse causes dysfunction.

00:01:56 But PTSD? I thought it did.

00:01:58 You think child abuse, it's just, "Boom, I have problems because I was abused as a child."

00:02:04 Okay, that's not correct.

00:02:07 That's not correct.

00:02:11 What causes dysfunction is not child abuse.

00:02:14 I mean, it's necessary but not sufficient.

00:02:19 No, what causes dysfunction is not child abuse, but your justifications for that child abuse.

00:02:28 It's not denial of the child abuse, it's the justifications for the child abuse.

00:02:34 So, if you fall on your bike and you get an injury, does that traumatize you?

00:02:44 Does that produce dysfunction in your life?

00:02:46 You've been injured, does that cause dysfunction?

00:02:52 Nope.

00:02:54 If you're hiking and a dog bites you, yeah, you'll be nervous about dogs and all of that,

00:02:58 and maybe you'll, you know, hike with a stick or something.

00:03:01 But it does not cause dysfunction in your life to be bitten by a dog, to fall off a bike,

00:03:08 to break your arm, to whatever, right?

00:03:10 That doesn't cause dysfunction.

00:03:12 It does not cause dysfunction to be abused.

00:03:17 Now, do you know why it's so important that I tell you this?

00:03:20 Why is it so important that I tell you that it is not dysfunction that causes your...

00:03:26 It's not abuse that causes your dysfunction.

00:03:29 Why is that so important?

00:03:33 If abuse causes dysfunction, can you ever be unabused?

00:03:42 Can you ever go back in time, erase, like Photoshop, troll, delete style, right?

00:03:49 Can you ever, ever not be abused if you were abused as a child, right?

00:03:58 No.

00:03:59 So if abuse is just dominoes, right, they come down,

00:04:05 if abuse causes dysfunction, you can't ever undysfunction because you can't ever be unabused.

00:04:15 Right.

00:04:19 Now, abuse is difficult.

00:04:22 Abuse is traumatic.

00:04:24 But your dysfunction does not come from abuse.

00:04:27 Let me go back to this guy's letter, right?

00:04:34 Okay, clearly, so I'm going to read this again, just so you understand this, right?

00:04:38 "Good evening.

00:04:39 Hope it's okay that I post this now since I won't be able to make it to the actual live stream."

00:04:44 So he's already, and I say this with great sympathy and affection and concern and care,

00:04:50 almost with love, but he is already manipulating me.

00:04:55 He's already being tentative, "Hope it's okay that I post this now.

00:04:57 I won't be able to make it to the actual live stream," blah, blah, blah, right?

00:05:01 I literally ask people for questions.

00:05:03 I ask people, "I hope you don't mind if I give you a question," right?

00:05:10 It's like a waiter comes up to you at the restaurant and you say,

00:05:13 "Oh, listen, I hope it's okay if I order some food.

00:05:16 I hope it's okay if I," right?

00:05:19 Come on.

00:05:22 Come on.

00:05:27 Doesn't do it.

00:05:31 So who is he treating me?

00:05:33 Like I literally am the guy who's asking for questions.

00:05:35 I'm doing an "Ask Me Anything."

00:05:37 This is a live stream where you ask me questions.

00:05:41 And he's like, "I hope it's okay that I post this now."

00:05:43 Like why on earth wouldn't it be?

00:05:45 So who is he treating me as?

00:05:48 Who is he treating me as?

00:05:51 Come on, you guys know this.

00:05:53 Is it an advanced crew here?

00:05:54 Yeah, he's treating me like I'm his parents, right?

00:05:58 Which means that he interprets the world through the lens of his parents.

00:06:03 What is causing his current dysfunction?

00:06:05 The fact that his parents neglected him?

00:06:06 Nope.

00:06:08 No.

00:06:10 His current dysfunction is not because his parents neglected him.

00:06:17 It's dysfunctional because he's treating me like I was his parents.

00:06:24 Do you feel me?

00:06:25 You follow me?

00:06:26 He's not dysfunctional because he got ignored or neglected.

00:06:29 He's dysfunctional because he's normalized it and he's projected it onto other people.

00:06:35 That's the dysfunction.

00:06:36 And again, I say this, I'm really glad he posted this.

00:06:39 I'm really glad he posted this, right?

00:06:44 So what he says here, makes sense?

00:06:48 We all do it.

00:06:49 It's natural, right?

00:06:50 It's inevitable, it's natural.

00:06:51 I understand that.

00:06:52 We'll get into sort of why this.

00:06:54 Okay, but you are not a shadow cast by shitty things shitty people did to you.

00:06:59 You are not a statue immobile.

00:07:02 You're not poured soft, hardened into concrete.

00:07:04 You're not the shape you are because of the abuse.

00:07:07 No, a thousand times no.

00:07:11 Which chat do I pay attention to?

00:07:13 My God, I pay attention.

00:07:16 I pay attention to all the chats, even those I'm not currently involved with.

00:07:22 Oh wait, somebody posted something.

00:07:23 I'm just kidding.

00:07:24 I pay attention to all the chats.

00:07:31 Yeah, I currently have three chats open.

00:07:33 Okay, so this all makes sense.

00:07:34 So let's get back to this guy's letter, right?

00:07:39 You recently talked about self-destructive thoughts.

00:07:41 Mine would be that nobody would ever care what I have to say anyway,

00:07:45 so I never do anything.

00:07:47 I know this comes from neglect, but how or what would be your suggestion to deal with it?

00:07:55 I can't talk to my parents since they disowned and slandered me after I confronted them.

00:07:58 If this topic is "finished for you," so to say, just ignore the question.

00:08:01 Thank you.

00:08:03 If this topic is finished for you.

00:08:08 Yeah, I am thread ripping here.

00:08:11 I'm multi-threaded, right?

00:08:14 Just ignore the question.

00:08:18 Right.

00:08:24 He's not defensive.

00:08:25 No, he's not defensive, because defensive is when people react in a hostile manner to being attacked.

00:08:36 My mother did not love me.

00:08:39 That's not the trauma.

00:08:41 The trauma is when I say I'm unlovable.

00:08:47 Right?

00:08:50 Hit me with a "Y" if you've ever heard anything negative about me on the intratubes.

00:08:55 Hit me with a "Y" if you've ever read anything negative about me on the intratubes, right?

00:09:05 So, there are people who absolutely hate and loathe me, right?

00:09:12 Fair to say?

00:09:13 People who absolutely hate and loathe me, right?

00:09:21 Apparently I have an evil twin that Wikipedia writes about.

00:09:24 Right, so, now, that's not traumatic.

00:09:28 That's not dysfunctional for me.

00:09:30 What would be traumatic and dysfunctional for me is if I believed them, right?

00:09:39 Right.

00:09:45 Is being a racist, misogynistic cult leader negative?

00:09:49 But see, that's all projection, right?

00:09:52 That's all projection.

00:09:56 I mean, you know, Alfred Kinsey, who wrote The Sexual Life of the American Male, published in 1948,

00:10:03 and then The Sexual Life of the American Female, published in 1953,

00:10:07 literally was pro-pedophilia.

00:10:13 And, you know, he's academic, he's right.

00:10:16 Lots of French intellectuals and other intellectuals wanted to lower the age of consent to the age of 12,

00:10:23 and they all have positive articles throughout the internet, right?

00:10:36 And Kinsey lied about his sources and interviewed sex offenders and criminals and all this kind of stuff, right?

00:10:47 So, it's not traumatic for me that my mother, who was an evildoer, doesn't or didn't love me, right?

00:10:56 In fact, it would be really bad if she did, quote, love me or claim to love me or claim to have, yeah.

00:11:00 Che Guevara is viewed in a positive light, right?

00:11:02 Che Guevara literally murdered children and gays,

00:11:06 and you can wear a t-shirt with him and everyone thinks you're a hero, right?

00:11:18 So, he says, "I know this comes from neglect."

00:11:23 So, nobody would ever care what I have to say anyway, so I never do anything, right?

00:11:29 And he says, "My feeling that nobody will ever care what I have to say comes from neglect."

00:11:35 No, it does not come from neglect.

00:11:38 That's causal, that's dominoes, that's a lack of free will, that's non-evaluate,

00:11:43 if it means you don't evaluate, right?

00:11:48 If people judge you as evil, either you're evil or they're evil.

00:11:53 You understand how this works?

00:11:55 If people judge you as evil, either they're evil or you're evil, right?

00:12:06 And you have to make that choice.

00:12:11 If you are ignored by your parents, then either they're selfish withholding monsters

00:12:20 or you're not worthy of interesting people, you're not worthy of being interesting.

00:12:26 And he says here, "Nobody would ever care," right?

00:12:31 And how do I get over that nobody would ever care what I have to say?

00:12:44 So, how do you overcome, if your parents neglect you

00:12:48 and they didn't care what you had to say,

00:12:51 how do you overcome that so that it doesn't haunt you for the rest of your life?

00:12:55 This is hitting you hard?

00:12:57 Alright, sorry, do you want me to fast lean up the old tongue there?

00:13:12 Get pissed off at them, find virtuous people, right?

00:13:28 So, if your parents say you're nothing, you're nothing,

00:13:35 if your parents say you're nothing and other people find you interesting,

00:13:42 who's revealed as the asshole?

00:13:46 If your parents say, we talked about this with Sinead O'Connor just the other day,

00:13:51 your parents say you're nothing and then it turns out that you're interesting,

00:13:55 then who's the asshole? Your parents. Yeah, of course, the parents, right?

00:13:58 So, your parents need you to believe that they're accurate and not abusive.

00:14:03 You follow me?

00:14:05 If your parents are abusive, they say you're nothing,

00:14:08 then you have to internalize and believe that in order to protect them.

00:14:15 Because if your parents are terrible or negative or whatever,

00:14:19 if they're negative towards you, if your parents are negative towards you,

00:14:23 then either they're right or they're assholes, right?

00:14:30 I mean, if my mother would have said to me,

00:14:33 Steph, I don't think you can be a professional singer.

00:14:37 I don't think you've got the voice for it.

00:14:39 Would she being a jerk or would she be accurate?

00:14:41 She would be accurate. She would be accurate.

00:14:47 If she would have said, I don't think you can really be a hair model,

00:14:50 because you seem to be lacking, I mean, unless there's a big market for ear hair models, right?

00:14:56 So, my mother would not be wrong or abusive

00:15:01 by telling me rational limitations that I actually have, right?

00:15:08 Are we all together here?

00:15:11 I'm looking at you, Rumble. I'm looking at you, D-Live.

00:15:13 I'm looking at you, all of these places.

00:15:15 Yeah, listen, my karaoke is not so bad, but it ain't professional singer stuff, right?

00:15:19 I mean, it's fun. I like throwing a tune in there every now and then.

00:15:23 It's not terrible. I'm not saying I'm terrible.

00:15:25 I'm just saying it's not professional.

00:15:27 It's not like you listen to really great singers.

00:15:33 Like, that's not me, right?

00:15:39 So, if my mother says, I hate you, as my mother did,

00:15:48 she says, I hate you, then either I'm just hateful in general,

00:15:52 and she's just telling me the facts, right?

00:15:56 Just telling me the facts, right?

00:16:01 Or she's abusive.

00:16:05 Now, your parent needs you to internalize and universalize

00:16:15 what they're saying about you.

00:16:17 They need you to internalize and universalize, right?

00:16:22 So, tell me some of the negative things that your parents have said about you.

00:16:30 I remember a family member saying to me,

00:16:32 "Oh, you're just lost in abstractions. You're addicted to philosophy,

00:16:35 and you can't connect with people, and you're just drifting away from everyone.

00:16:38 You're just drifting off into the ether like you don't even exist."

00:16:46 "You'll be alone forever, that you're lazy or a psychopath."

00:16:53 "You're stupid and useless for manual labor."

00:16:56 "I'm lazy, too extreme, anti-Christ, sarcastic, etc."

00:17:00 "I would never recommend you to anyone in a work context.

00:17:03 You're so aloof, you're lazy, you're stupid."

00:17:06 Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure.

00:17:08 You get all these things, right? All these things.

00:17:10 And I think I'm really sorry that you heard all of these things, right?

00:17:12 "I'm a loser, you don't think."

00:17:14 "You're lazy, you're stubborn, something is wrong with you, you're weird."

00:17:18 "You're going to grow up a loser like your father," says somebody.

00:17:21 Sorry to hear about that, my friend. I'm sorry to hear about all of this, right?

00:17:26 "You're just a weirdo, you're a loser."

00:17:30 "You're just like your father. You cannot get along with anyone."

00:17:34 "You're a C-word."

00:17:38 Conscious?

00:17:40 My dad said, "You'll never be as good or successful as me."

00:17:42 He was drunk and we were out in the forest on a hike when I was 13.

00:17:45 "You're autistic." Right, right.

00:17:47 "They created a DSM-5 because my mom ran out of DSM-4 diagnosis."

00:17:51 "You're incompetent." Can't you just be normal?

00:17:57 Right.

00:18:00 Right.

00:18:03 I actually once managed to get called a son of a bitch by my own mother.

00:18:07 Oh, oh, oh.

00:18:09 Well, you know, it's not abuse if it's true.

00:18:13 And clearly you were the son of a bitch.

00:18:16 "Yeah, stop thinking." "Oh, yes, don't think, don't think."

00:18:19 "But I thought that..." "Don't think." Right.

00:18:22 Right.

00:18:24 And of course, abusers, they don't want you to think, right?

00:18:28 You get called an asshole, you don't understand shit.

00:18:31 Right.

00:18:36 Somebody said, I remember, in another show, Steph talked about shyness

00:18:39 as unjustly treating strangers like they're going to be abusive to you.

00:18:42 "It helped me in social situations when I feel shyness."

00:18:45 What else have we got here?

00:18:48 "Stop thinking." "You think too much."

00:18:50 "Can't you ever just relax and enjoy things?"

00:18:52 "Oh, man, you can't be much fun to go to see movies with you,

00:18:55 "analyzing everything, you can't relax and enjoy things,

00:18:57 "just live in the moment, man, like an animal, like a trilobite."

00:19:03 There's all the sighing and annoyance when you need something.

00:19:06 "Fine, I'll get up and blah, blah, blah." Right.

00:19:08 "You don't know how the real world works, man, you live in a dream world."

00:19:11 Yeah, we get all of that, right.

00:19:14 More.

00:19:17 More.

00:19:22 More.

00:19:24 They said F you, yeah.

00:19:26 Well, that's not particularly abusive because verbal abuse in particular

00:19:31 is when your parents take a negative action

00:19:34 and attempt to massage it directly into your personality as a whole.

00:19:37 Like not, "You did something clumsy," or "You told a lie,"

00:19:40 but you're clumsy and a liar.

00:19:42 Like they take a negative characteristic of something you did

00:19:44 and they just try to make it unified with your entire personality.

00:19:48 It becomes your definition.

00:19:53 Somebody says, "When Steph speaks positively and confidently

00:19:56 "about his work and his writing, it becomes painful for me

00:19:58 "because I can't think positively about myself,

00:20:01 "let alone take credit for any accomplishment."

00:20:03 And why is that, my friend? Serum, why is that?

00:20:09 Ah.

00:20:11 "Don't let people treat you badly."

00:20:13 Meanwhile, they put me down constantly, yeah.

00:20:15 "A lot of ridicule or laughing about uncomfortable, embarrassing situations."

00:20:18 Anybody ever get called something sexualized by their parents?

00:20:22 Put that out there.

00:20:24 "Expressed intense boredom when I show enthusiasm."

00:20:26 God forbid you're happy, enthusiastic, and excited about something,

00:20:29 they're just trying to deaden you with overall negative black hole undertow.

00:20:35 "My mother told me that I'm an enigma, that she doesn't understand me."

00:20:39 Oy, oy, oy, oy.

00:20:42 Sorry, it's an enigma.

00:20:45 The extended version of "Return to Innocence"

00:20:47 has got really cool Middle Eastern music to start with.

00:20:52 "I just don't understand you."

00:20:54 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:55 In other words, you're incomprehensible, not

00:20:57 "I'm too selfish to notice anybody else's personality," right?

00:21:01 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:03 "Can inner critics drill sergeants come from yourself based on your actions?"

00:21:06 I don't know what that means exactly.

00:21:09 "In the psychological world, they call this creating shame in someone."

00:21:12 Your take on it, yeah.

00:21:14 "My mom used to call me a sexy beast, and it would really make me angry."

00:21:18 Yeah, that's wrong on every conceivable level.

00:21:21 "I didn't raise you this way."

00:21:24 Maybe you did.

00:21:27 Cindy says, "My husband says I overanalyze in movies, lol."

00:21:34 Right.

00:21:37 So, Serum over on Rumble says,

00:21:40 "When Steph speaks positively and confidently, as he said, about his work and his writing,

00:21:43 it becomes painful for me."

00:21:45 But it's not--the pain in you does not come.

00:21:49 It does not come because I'm speaking positively.

00:21:56 Right?

00:21:57 When I--you know, okay, let me give you an example, right?

00:22:00 So, how do you all feel when I say,

00:22:03 "I would like some support, I would like some donations,

00:22:05 I would appreciate your generosity," right?

00:22:09 You can tip me on Rumble, you can tip me here on the app,

00:22:12 you can tip me on DLive.

00:22:15 When I say, "I really appreciate your support,

00:22:18 I'm bypassing doing a lot of work because I'm working on this peaceful parenting book,

00:22:22 and I'm going to give it away for free,

00:22:25 give it away, give it away, give it away now," right?

00:22:27 So, when I say--and I am actually saying that, by the way--

00:22:31 so when you ask for donations, so a lot of people get annoyed when I ask for donations.

00:22:36 Well, I don't--I mean, but it's not because--I know that it's not because of me.

00:22:41 Somebody says, "I started tipping you recently and I feel really good about it.

00:22:45 I'm glad you asked because it models value for value," right?

00:22:49 Right. Yeah.

00:22:51 It's--I've also modeling, ask for what you want.

00:22:54 There's nothing wrong with asking for what you want.

00:22:56 If you're confident in the value that you're providing--and look,

00:23:00 we all and our pets and our armpit hair knows that you can't get this kind of

00:23:04 analysis information depth or value anywhere else.

00:23:08 There's nowhere else, right? There's nowhere else.

00:23:10 It's only here. It's only here our brains working together to produce these outcomes, right?

00:23:17 Somebody says, "Compliments are painful. They induce the exact opposite reaction.

00:23:20 I immediately begin pointing out faults.

00:23:22 I tried stopping recently and it helps, but it's still there," right?

00:23:25 So you think--you think that your dysfunction is because you were abused,

00:23:31 and I'm telling you that's not why it is.

00:23:36 You see, abuse is either repetitive or it's protective.

00:23:40 There's nothing else.

00:23:45 Somebody says, "You once made the point that if we don't donate,

00:23:48 then we won't implement philosophy in real life, and that made me subscribe on Locals."

00:23:51 I have to say you were right.

00:23:53 Yeah, so if you support philosophy, if you support me--and not just me,

00:23:56 but whoever you find the best at philosophy--I think it's me,

00:23:59 but it could be somebody else for you--if you don't support,

00:24:02 like if you're not going to do five bucks a month or ten bucks a month or whatever,

00:24:05 then your unconscious is like, "Oh, so this is just a show.

00:24:07 Like we don't--it's not really a serious thing," right?

00:24:09 It's like if you read a diet book but you don't change your diet,

00:24:12 it doesn't help you at all, right?

00:24:14 Your belly is like, "Well, I don't care what we read," right?

00:24:16 Yeah, when you donate, you have skin in the game,

00:24:18 and when you apply resources to something, your unconscious makes it--takes it more seriously.

00:24:23 So I was raised by somebody vehemently and violently opposed to rationality, right?

00:24:34 I was raised by somebody vehemently and violently opposed to rationality

00:24:37 and in a culture that was anti-rational as well, right?

00:24:41 Now, when you are raised with a disease, it kills you or what?

00:24:51 Right? If you get a disease, it makes you sick or what?

00:24:57 I'm getting there. I'm expanding on abuse being repetitive or protective.

00:25:03 If you catch a disease, it either makes you weaker or it makes you stronger, right?

00:25:10 Yeah, you get antibodies, right? You get antibodies.

00:25:17 Yeah, it protects you from later disease, right? Okay.

00:25:21 So we're there, right? We're there.

00:25:28 If you were raised by people who ignored you, right?

00:25:32 If you go back to this wonderful--and I'm really so glad that you posted this--

00:25:35 if you get back to this, right?

00:25:40 I don't believe anybody will ever care what I have to say, right?

00:25:45 There is no, absolutely no direct physical domino causality that says,

00:25:52 "Because your parents treated you as worthless, that you then feel worthless."

00:25:56 There is no causality for that.

00:25:58 They don't get into your brain. They don't rewire your brain.

00:26:02 They don't send ghosts to remap your neurons.

00:26:05 They don't haunt you in your dreams.

00:26:07 Well, maybe they do, but they still can't rewire your brain.

00:26:11 Who's in charge of your brain when you're an adult?

00:26:13 Who's in charge of your brain?

00:26:15 Answer me. Who's in charge of--I'm trying to get you back on the horse, people.

00:26:19 Who's in charge of your brain when you're an adult?

00:26:22 Who? You. That's right, me. I'm in charge of your brain.

00:26:27 Bill Gates, right?

00:26:29 Only if you take his 5G mosquito larvae up the nose, right?

00:26:33 Yeah, you're in charge of your brain, right?

00:26:37 So I was raised with a violent, anti-rational person in charge of my life.

00:26:44 Now, does that mean I'm going to be afraid of rationality?

00:26:49 Is that causal? Is that absolute, no exception, everybody?

00:26:54 If you drop every coconut off a building, the coconut falls to the ground.

00:26:59 There's none that go up, none that go sideways.

00:27:04 If a man is raised by a drunk, does this mean he becomes a drunk?

00:27:08 No, absolutely not.

00:27:12 Now, he's either going to be a drunk or a teetotaler.

00:27:17 I was either going to be super insane or super rational.

00:27:26 Somebody says, "I like the idea of tipping, but I'll say that it feels a lot like back when I was young,

00:27:31 pre-philosophy, and I was tipping cam girls, but this doesn't feel nearly as dirty and Steph is way sexier.

00:27:35 Reason is sexy." You know, it's funny, I don't mean to complain.

00:27:38 If you sent me five bucks, I bet you sent the cam girls a lot more than that.

00:27:41 That's just the burden that philosophers have to live with, that

00:27:44 Amaranth gets, I don't know, $50,000 a month or whatever, and people can sell their bathwater for tens of thousands of dollars,

00:27:52 but reason often goes begging. That's just the way that it is, right?

00:27:57 It's the cross we have to bear.

00:28:00 So this guy says, "I feel like nothing because my parents treated me like nothing."

00:28:05 Nope! Okay, what do you need to do to change from repetition to resistance?

00:28:13 What are the antibodies? What are the antibodies that you have to manifest?

00:28:22 How do you manifest the antibodies to protect you from the injuries you received?

00:28:31 Get angry? Take responsibility, anger, you have to reflect, self-esteem.

00:28:36 Whatever you don't criticize, you normalize.

00:28:41 We're anonymous here.

00:28:44 What's...

00:28:48 What did your parents tell you that you're secretly afraid could be right?

00:28:52 What's your greatest fear of what you were told as a kid?

00:28:56 What's your greatest fear of what you were told as a kid?

00:29:03 What is your greatest fear?

00:29:07 This guy's greatest fear is that he's worthless, can't be interesting to anyone.

00:29:15 Right, so what have we got here?

00:29:18 They didn't tell me much? Okay, so then your greatest fear is that you're not worthy of anyone investing time, money or energy into you.

00:29:24 Greatest fear to go against them? No, but that's not something that you're afraid is part of your personality.

00:29:30 That I cannot be liked by anyone, that I'm bad, just like my father, unlovable. Right.

00:29:35 I'm lazy, won't achieve anything. You're a clone of your father, less valuable than my siblings. Right.

00:29:45 Right.

00:29:51 Abandoned because you're going to be abandoned because you're worthless.

00:29:54 Nothing about you has value, other people are dangerous.

00:29:57 I wasn't told any negatives, just neglected. Yes, you were told negatives.

00:30:01 Neglect is you're not interesting. You're uninteresting. You won't ever arouse anybody's interest.

00:30:05 Nobody's going to bond with you or connect with you or care for you.

00:30:07 You're just going to pass by like water running down the side of a window.

00:30:15 My greatest fear is becoming my father, like that Prince song.

00:30:20 Sexy MF, I don't know which Prince song you're talking about.

00:30:23 I'm useless, I'm not interesting, I'm worthless, I'm selfish.

00:30:28 Minus that my mother is right, evil people run the world, and reason will lead to self-destruction.

00:30:39 Oh, Dove's Cry?

00:30:40 Maybe you're just like my mother, she's never satisfied. Right.

00:30:48 We never talked in the family, we did yell a lot. Right.

00:30:55 Now, when you're a kid and your parents are in total charge of your life,

00:31:01 and they say you're unlovable, what does your survival response tell you to do?

00:31:10 When your parents say you're unlovable, let's say you're 6 years old, 7 years old, 10 years old,

00:31:14 you're unlovable, you have to believe them. Right.

00:31:21 You have to believe them, because if you say you're wrong and abusive, what happens?

00:31:27 When parents attack you, and you say you're wrong and abusive and destructive and bad parents,

00:31:35 and you're 10 years old or 8 years old, what happens?

00:31:40 Yeah, you die.

00:31:44 Yeah.

00:31:45 Yeah, my dad, he says, straight beat me up for challenging him.

00:31:49 Death threat, yeah, death threat, I get it. Yeah, that's right.

00:31:56 That's right, that's what happens.

00:31:58 That's what happens, my friends.

00:32:02 Now, maybe they wouldn't kill you, but do you really want to take that chance?

00:32:06 You know, when I did my speech in Australia, a couple of speeches in Australia,

00:32:10 and tried to give one in New Zealand, this is back in 2018, it's like half a decade ago, right,

00:32:15 I talked about the aborigines and how if you defied any of the elders, they just killed you.

00:32:19 In fact, they killed about 40% of their babies anyway.

00:32:24 So, throughout our evolution, to defy the parents was to die, or to risk death, right?

00:32:34 Like if you're in the ocean and you see a shark, you get out of the water.

00:32:41 Does that mean if you don't, you'll get eaten and die? No.

00:32:46 Well, hopefully die and then get eaten, but no, because there's no guarantee that the shark is going to bite you.

00:32:51 It might not even be hungry, it might not like the taste of human beings, it might be scared of you, right?

00:32:55 Killer whales don't ever eat people because apparently their mothers teach them what's safe to eat,

00:32:59 and they've never been taught that it's safe to eat people, so they just swim past people, right?

00:33:04 But you don't take the chance, right? You don't take the chance. You get out of the water, right?

00:33:11 So you can't take the chance of seeing how far your parents will escalate

00:33:15 if you call them abusive when they're being abusive, right?

00:33:27 Are we losing our... I jumped to recent messages.

00:33:32 So you have to nod and agree with them, and also parents who are abusive tend to be really, really good

00:33:39 at figuring out when you're faking. So you have to internalize it to survive.

00:33:46 So if they say, "You're nothing!" you can't say, "Oh yeah, I totally agree with you, I'm nothing, blah, blah, blah."

00:33:51 Like then they'll just escalate, right? You have to internalize it and you have to believe it, right?

00:33:57 Otherwise, it's survival, right? To put it another way, kids who fought back didn't make it.

00:34:07 Those genes of fighting back didn't make it.

00:34:16 Somebody says, "My mother-in-law was threatened by her mother with abandonment.

00:34:19 She told us she'll give her over to gypsies. Needless to say, she immediately complied."

00:34:25 "Your parents might escalate, like O'Connor's mother drove the car into oncoming traffic."

00:34:30 Yeah, yeah, that's right. Isn't that wild? I was thinking about that after the show.

00:34:36 So for those of you who don't know the story, Sinead O'Connor had an insanely evil and violent mother

00:34:42 who beat her around her genitals and in a fetal position and threatened her and so on.

00:34:48 And then when her brother escaped, Sinead O'Connor's mother demanded that the brother come back.

00:34:54 The mother refused and she said, "If you don't come back, I'm taking Sinead, putting him in the passenger seat,

00:34:58 and driving him into oncoming traffic."

00:35:02 The brother did not return and the mother did that.

00:35:05 And then, do you remember? Where did Sinead O'Connor's mother end up after attempting to murder her own child?

00:35:13 And whoever else was in the oncoming car. And whoever else might have been part of it.

00:35:17 She could have murdered half a dozen or a dozen people by driving into oncoming traffic, big crashes.

00:35:22 Where did Sinead O'Connor's mother end up? Remember? Remember the story? If you were here.

00:35:29 Elevated position of power. No! They put her in asylum. They put her in an asylum. No.

00:35:37 See, if you're a man and you attempt to kill your kid, you go to jail.

00:35:40 But if you're a woman, you're having a mental health crisis and they have to put you in an asylum.

00:35:46 Because, you know, you're Sinead. Dysfunctional.

00:35:53 Right. I mean, for those of you who don't know, my mother, when I attempted to run away at the age of four or so,

00:36:00 my mother beat my head against a metal door and I just, I had to go limp because I was going to, like, I was risking severe brain damage.

00:36:09 So no, you can't disagree with them because they're big and violent and they'll kill you.

00:36:14 And remember, throughout most of human history, there were no laws against killing children. Right.

00:36:20 And, you know, you wouldn't have to do it really explicitly. You could just, like, not give them quite enough food

00:36:25 or be a little late to protect them when the predators came or whoops, left them behind.

00:36:29 Or he ran off. He ran off. I don't know where he's gone. Blah, blah, blah. We've got to move on. Right.

00:36:34 Speaking of mothers killing children, is sudden infant death syndrome real or is it just to cover up women doing something by accident?

00:36:39 I think SIDS is real. And there's been some very interesting speculation recently post-COVID about what has been occurring to it.

00:36:47 You can check Macy's comment for more on that. I can't speak to that, to the science, but there's some very interesting theories about that.

00:36:54 So you have to believe them. You have to believe your parents if they insult you to survive. Right.

00:37:07 Not sure what Julie's saying there. So that's causal. I get that's causal, that's survivable.

00:37:14 But as an adult, right, as an adult, you have to go back and take a flamethrower to everything you were told.

00:37:26 I'm telling you, this is philosophy. I said this right in my very first book. You can get that for free at freedomain.com/books.

00:37:32 I mean, tell me if you think this or you experience this. Tell me when you've lived through the last couple of years,

00:37:55 I mean really since about 2015, eight years, I'd say 2015 to 2023, and you see the amount of lies that go on in the world

00:38:08 and the complete lack of correction from the professional class of historians.

00:38:12 I mean, how many historians have accurately rewritten, have accurately written a history of all the lies of the past eight years

00:38:19 since Trump first came down that elevator? Not just about Trump, but escalator, but as a whole.

00:38:28 Now you've seen actual facts, living present current history, you've seen it absolutely falsified.

00:38:40 Absolutely falsified. Right in front of you. Right in front of you.

00:38:51 And what do you think of history now? I mean, they literally lie the living shit out of everything right in front of you,

00:39:07 right as it's happening. They lie about videos that anyone can see like that.

00:39:16 Right, like the fine people hoax, right?

00:39:21 They literally will lie repeatedly, preemptively about people, things, and events when the video evidence is right there.

00:39:37 So now, when you look back at history, do you believe any of it?

00:39:51 What's with that great Norm Macdonald quote? It's amazing!

00:39:55 It's an incredible coincidence that every single war has always been won by the good guys.

00:40:01 It's incredible. Well, what are the odds?

00:40:07 Oh, I see, Julie. Your mom always said that that's what I was, cold and mean, because I made statements where she assumed I meant more.

00:40:13 Okay, so here's the thing, right? Hit me with a "Y" if you still believe history.

00:40:19 Hit me with a "Y", hit me with an "N" if you don't believe it.

00:40:22 Hit me with a "Y" if you still believe history. Any of it.

00:40:33 Right. Okay, we have one "Yes".

00:40:37 Alright. Yeah, okay, I mean, I'm, right, Julius, okay.

00:40:43 Okay, you know, I don't know if you guys are ready to get your minds blown. I don't know.

00:40:50 I don't know, man.

00:40:58 It might be too much.

00:41:02 Are you... 'cause this is gonna blow your mind, what I'm about to say. You're always ready to get blown.

00:41:13 'Cause, also, you know, I just, I don't want you to compulsively donate everything, but this will make you donate.

00:41:20 Are you sure? This is thermonuclear, man. This is like, I'm like, "I am become death, the destroyer of illusions."

00:41:27 I'm Oppenheiming your fantasies here.

00:41:32 Are you sure? Hit me with a "Y" if you're ready to have your mind blown.

00:41:41 Calling my bank to raise my credit. Okay, you're not ready. You think you're ready. You're not ready. You just think you are.

00:41:48 Alright, how much more teasing and nipple-showing should I do? Alright, here we go.

00:41:54 So, you don't believe history because people lie to you in the present, right?

00:42:00 You no longer believe history 'cause you can see the lies in the present, right?

00:42:04 I know the quote was not originally said by Oppenheimer, it's from the Bhagavad Gita. I get it, I get it.

00:42:11 So, you don't believe history because the media lies to you up, down, back, front, top, bottom, right?

00:42:24 All history, you say, is a lie. Oh, but what my parents told me about me, that's the truth.

00:42:33 History is a lie made up by evildoers to serve their own interests, but I bet what my parents told about me was accurate and true.

00:42:43 The Gulf of Tonkin was a total psyop, man. The nukes are going off, I'm telling you.

00:42:48 Do you see, I'm putting this all together for you. This is how much work I do for everyone.

00:42:53 And me too, 'cause I like it when the world gets saner, right?

00:42:57 Why would you believe what evildoers say about you any more than the media says about people in public life? Why?

00:43:09 Oh, well, you see, I really don't think that the assassination of JFK was accurate.

00:43:16 There's a lot of lying about that, but man, what my nasty, vindictive parents told about me, that's totally true.

00:43:28 Who has more of an incentive to lie to you about the past? The media or mean parents who don't want to get caught for the wrongs they did?

00:43:43 Believe me. Boom! Did I oversell or was that mind-blowing?

00:43:50 Parents lie more than the media. Mean parents lie more than the media.

00:44:00 I mean, you were actually there. I wasn't at Charlottesville. I saw the videos afterwards.

00:44:05 I saw the instant relief. That clicks, right? Right? Right? You were there.

00:44:14 Why would you disbelieve historians and believe the propagandists of your childhood about who you are?

00:44:29 The people who write your history are the victors of the past, and the victors misrepresent the past to serve themselves.

00:44:51 You think propaganda is out there in the mainstream media, the television, the movies, the video games, the schools, universities?

00:45:02 You think that the propaganda that most affects you is out there?

00:45:07 Where is the most powerful propaganda in your life? Where does the most powerful propaganda in your life show up?

00:45:18 Tell me. You know it. You know it. Home. Family.

00:45:28 Again, with bad parents, right? Not all parents are bad, right? I get all of that.

00:45:32 For the people who gave me their tragic stories, which I massively sympathize with.

00:45:43 The most powerful propaganda is not about your culture, it's not about history, it's about your childhood.

00:45:50 Thank you for your tip. Somebody says, "To make up, I know it isn't much, but this is my first stream. I value you a lot, Steph, more than you know.

00:46:00 You got me through my divorce a few months ago and all the evils of the last ten years or so.

00:46:04 The most powerful propaganda is the world view that our parents and peers have taught us."

00:46:08 Yes.

00:46:11 Now, which comes first? Which comes first?

00:46:20 The lies about history, the lies about your country, your culture, or history, or the lies about you as a child?

00:46:30 Who primes people for accepting propaganda from the media?

00:46:34 Who primes people to accept propaganda from the media?

00:46:39 [silence]

00:46:47 Yes, you are correct.

00:46:49 Santa baby, just slip a sable under the tree for me.

00:46:55 Yeah, parents. Parents.

00:46:59 Parents, bad parents, mean parents, vicious parents, abusive parents, lie to you about who you are.

00:47:08 That wound, that fissure, is already present by the time the media comes along, often by the time that school comes along.

00:47:22 [silence]

00:47:29 People are susceptible to propaganda in the world because propaganda is first inflicted upon them at home.

00:47:37 [silence]

00:47:41 You won't swallow the lies about your culture unless you're first force-fed the lies about yourself.

00:47:47 [silence]

00:47:53 Why is there sophistry? Why do people believe lies?

00:47:57 Well, you were right about being compelled to tip on that revelation. Very powerful.

00:48:01 Well, that's what we-- that's how we do, man. That's how we do.

00:48:04 [silence]

00:48:08 You see, do you think that sophists create a giant market for the need to swallow lies? No.

00:48:14 They're merely capitalizing on the market created by bad parents who lie to their children

00:48:19 [silence]

00:48:22 and create a bond between the child and the liar.

00:48:27 [silence]

00:48:29 You follow?

00:48:31 [silence]

00:48:33 When you bond with a liar, when you bond with a liar, when you're forced to bond with a liar,

00:48:39 with a liar by nature, circumstances, history, evolution, whatever you want to say,

00:48:45 the fourth trimester, the quarter century it takes for the brain to mature.

00:48:50 When you bond with a liar, you are primed to bond with a sophist,

00:49:01 because you already have bonded with a sophist.

00:49:03 [silence]

00:49:06 A sophist is someone who claims to tell you the truth, but is manipulating you to his or her own advantage, right?

00:49:12 [silence]

00:49:16 Are we there?

00:49:18 [silence]

00:49:20 You bond with a liar in the home, you cannot resist the liars in the world.

00:49:27 [silence]

00:49:30 You bond with a liar, you bond with a liar, you cannot resist a sophist,

00:49:37 if you accept the definitions from the false parents.

00:49:43 [silence]

00:49:46 The parents lie to you first, the media simply profits after the fact.

00:49:53 [silence]

00:49:56 Now, again, good parents out there, I'm one.

00:50:01 Now, what's the second greatest place as a child, outside the home,

00:50:07 what's the second greatest place that you get lied to?

00:50:12 You know it, you know it, you know it.

00:50:16 I can see you in the morning on the way to school.

00:50:20 Right.

00:50:23 Yeah, school.

00:50:29 Right.

00:50:34 What are the lies they tell about you in school?

00:50:37 I mean, I get they lie about a bunch of stuff in school, but what are the lies they say about you in school?

00:50:48 If you are bored and having trouble paying attention and yawning,

00:50:55 what lie do they tell you about yourself?

00:50:59 You don't apply yourself, you're ADD,

00:51:04 all boys have ADHD and need meth.

00:51:08 You're a disruptive influence, you're disrespectful, you're lazy,

00:51:11 you're mentally ill, you're dumb.

00:51:15 If effort matched ability, you'd be an A+, that's what I was always told.

00:51:19 Nobody ever asked why I was bored.

00:51:25 Does the teacher ever say, "How can I do better to engage you?

00:51:31 How can I make this more interesting to you?"

00:51:37 Ever.

00:51:42 No, you never heard those words.

00:51:50 Somebody says, "I went from being recommended for special ed to scrantron test suggesting I be put in AP classes."

00:51:57 One person, oh one, he retired that year, well that makes sense, right?

00:52:07 Right.

00:52:12 Did any teacher ever say to you,

00:52:17 "The problem is that we have a dumbed down curriculum for the masses and you're an exception,

00:52:21 so this isn't going to be interesting to you."

00:52:25 Somebody says, "A teacher in my former elementary school drove a child to suicide."

00:52:29 That's a bit causal.

00:52:32 "Why couldn't Robin Williams be my English teacher?"

00:52:35 Well, everyone thinks that the Dead Poets Society is some sort of inspiring movie

00:52:45 about how great teachers can be.

00:52:49 Hit me with a "why" if you've seen Dead Poets Society.

00:52:53 Hit me with a "why" if you've seen Dead Poets Society.

00:52:56 Did you find it inspiring?

00:53:02 It's awful.

00:53:05 What happens to the teacher in Dead Poets Society when he inspires his students?

00:53:14 Yeah, it's a movie.

00:53:18 What happens to the inspiring teacher in Dead Poets Society?

00:53:30 Well, he gets fired, attacked, sued, his life is going to be destroyed.

00:53:40 Yeah, he gets blamed for a student's suicide.

00:53:42 Sorry, the movie's 30 years old, I think we can give a spoiler or two.

00:53:46 So he inspires a kid to follow his dreams.

00:53:50 The kid wants to be an actor.

00:53:51 His father wants to put him in military school.

00:53:54 He is.

00:53:56 He defies his father's wishes and goes and stars in Mimitsemanite's dream as Puck.

00:54:01 His father then says, "You're going to military school."

00:54:03 His son kills himself.

00:54:05 The father complains to the school.

00:54:07 There are going to be lawsuits, wrongful death.

00:54:10 He's going to spend the next five or ten years in law courts,

00:54:13 blood dry, unable to work, his life is destroyed.

00:54:26 I mean, the Robin Williams character in the movie is an idiot.

00:54:32 Sorry, it's just a fact.

00:54:34 I'm not bringing this to the movie.

00:54:35 This is the movie.

00:54:38 Well, boys, you've got to seize the day.

00:54:40 You've got to live your dreams.

00:54:41 You've got to be a poet.

00:54:42 You've got to be passionate.

00:54:43 You've got to follow your bliss.

00:54:44 You've got to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:54:47 Like, why don't people follow their bliss?

00:54:49 It's like, because they get sued and they get whatever.

00:54:54 Their careers get destroyed.

00:54:55 Their incomes get destroyed.

00:54:56 Their livelihood, their savings, everything gets destroyed.

00:55:03 Did the, you know, this is supposed to be the wise teacher who knows all about the world.

00:55:15 Yuck.

00:55:23 Now, hit me with a "why" if you clearly see the propaganda in the media,

00:55:31 but not in your parents' view of you.

00:55:35 Hit me with a "why" if you see the propaganda in the media,

00:55:38 but you don't see the propaganda in your parents' view of you.

00:55:45 Which one affects you more?

00:55:50 Which one affects you more?

00:55:54 P for parents, M for media.

00:55:56 Which one affects you more?

00:55:58 Your parents' view of you, or the media?

00:56:03 Right.

00:56:05 Do you see why I stopped doing politics and analysis of falsehoods in the media

00:56:11 and focus on call-in shows and this stuff?

00:56:22 The media is an after-party.

00:56:23 The media is feasting on the bodies already killed.

00:56:33 They want you to look at the media so you overlook your family.

00:56:43 They want you to look at the media so you overlook your family.

00:56:47 They want you to look at the shadow, not the statue.

00:56:49 They want you to look at the effect, not the cause.

00:56:52 They want you to look at the last domino, not the first flick or punch.

00:57:07 It's like playing a video game with a killer in the house.

00:57:11 So, let's get back to this guy's great comment.

00:57:13 Look at this.

00:57:14 We've spent an hour on the first comment.

00:57:15 I'm sure we'll get to all of the rest of them.

00:57:18 Never. We will never get to them.

00:57:20 This is why you're addicted to conspiracy theories for years.

00:57:22 Conspiracy theories, which are, I mean, even the phrase is just annoying.

00:57:27 People say, "Well, conspiracy theories, they're not real."

00:57:30 It's like, you know that conspiracy is an actual offense

00:57:36 in the criminal code of every Western country known to man.

00:57:40 Conspiracy to commit. Conspiracy to collude.

00:57:44 Conspiracy is literally a real thing in law, and people say, "Well, it doesn't really work."

00:57:50 So, you're addicted to conspiracy theories, right?

00:57:54 I do always get to the comments.

00:57:58 No conspiracy against JFK.

00:57:59 Yeah, you know, stuff when you're holding that sneeze.

00:58:04 Conspiracy theories are spoiler alerts.

00:58:13 Conspiracy theories are a desperate attempt to get out of a matrix you can't get out of

00:58:22 while ignoring the matrix you can get out of.

00:58:27 You cannot remove your country, your media, your world from your life.

00:58:37 You can't do that, right?

00:58:39 I mean, I guess you can go live in the woods or whatever, right?

00:58:41 You cannot remove society from your life with social animals, right?

00:58:51 So, they get you to focus on things you can't remove from your life

00:58:57 and to ignore the very toxic and destructive lies, propaganda about you

00:59:07 that you can remove from your life.

00:59:11 It's your parents driving you to conspiracy theories, right?

00:59:16 Go over there. Go look at the Gulf of Tonkin.

00:59:19 Go look at Project Mockingbird. Go look at Ruby Ridge.

00:59:24 Go look at all that stuff. Go look at the origins of COVID.

00:59:28 Just don't come here.

00:59:32 Also, conspiracy theories as a whole, right?

00:59:37 You know how many times I was nagged about not doing 9/11, right?

00:59:41 So, conspiracy theories as a whole have you try to convince other people that there are lies

00:59:47 and those people generally don't believe you and score on you and mock you,

00:59:50 which is you attempting to say, if you were abused as a child,

00:59:53 "I was abused as a child and everyone ignoring you."

00:59:55 It's a repetition compulsion. It's a Simon the Boxer.

01:00:00 If I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong.

01:00:02 If it does not accord with your experience, I'm happy to reformulate the theory.

01:00:07 I never ever want my theories to dominate your lived experience,

01:00:11 your practical, actual experience.

01:00:13 But aren't you constantly reaching out for other people to believe you about things?

01:00:17 These bad things are happening. These bad things are happening.

01:00:20 And they just kind of ignore you, right?

01:00:22 But this is you when you were a kid.

01:00:24 You reach out to people and say, "I'm being abused," and they ignored you.

01:00:33 Somebody says, "What you describe is exactly what happened to me for over a decade.

01:00:36 I was always trying to convince people about the theories." Right.

01:00:43 It's a lot less ghastly to be rejected for your beliefs about MKUltra

01:00:52 than it is if you say to someone, "I was abused as a child,"

01:00:57 and they don't want to hear it. Right?

01:01:16 If you want your child abuse to save you rather than damn you,

01:01:25 if you were abused as a child and you want it to save you rather than damn you,

01:01:30 you have to reject the propaganda about who you are.

01:01:35 You have to reject the sophistry in abusive parents,

01:01:39 and you have to reject the propaganda about who you are.

01:01:47 I mean, could I even do this show if I believed the propaganda about me? No.

01:01:54 Now, I don't particularly care about the propaganda about me

01:01:59 because I've overcome the propaganda my immediate family had about me for decades.

01:02:08 If you reject the lies told about you by abusive parents,

01:02:21 you are closer to the truth than any other single action can get you.

01:02:30 You step right through.

01:02:34 There was an old game I used to play as a kid called Star Castle,

01:02:37 which was a vector-traced game, and it blew my mind when I first saw it

01:02:40 because the ray-tracing vectors, they had different, like asteroids,

01:02:45 like they had different colors.

01:02:47 It turned out they just put colored sticky tape on the screen.

01:02:50 And in it, so you were a spaceship flying around,

01:02:54 and you had to shoot through these rotating shield rings

01:02:57 to destroy the thing in the center of the spaceship,

01:03:00 the space station in the center, or something like that. Right?

01:03:03 So you're flying around, "choo-choo-choo," you've got to shoot through these defenses, right?

01:03:11 The lies that harm you most are the lies that define you,

01:03:15 that you believe, that you can't see.

01:03:18 The lies that define you, that you believe, that you can't see.

01:03:24 Thank you, Jeremy, I appreciate the tip.

01:03:28 The lies that define you, that you believe, two sides of the same coin,

01:03:33 and that you can't see.

01:03:35 So if you see the falsehood in the media, that doesn't define you, right?

01:03:48 But you can't see it.

01:03:49 Like this guy says, "Nobody will ever care what I have to say.

01:03:54 I believe that nobody will ever care what I have to say

01:03:57 because I was neglected." No!

01:04:02 "So I can't talk to my parents since they disowned and slandered me

01:04:05 after I confronted them."

01:04:11 It's quite a revelation to actually experience how much I'm addicted

01:04:13 to what society has to offer.

01:04:17 Oh, because you came back from wildland firefighting? Right.

01:04:23 Now, let me ask you this.

01:04:28 If you try to tell the truth to someone,

01:04:32 thank you, Dan, I appreciate that, it will help with the book.

01:04:35 If you try to talk to someone about someone who's really harmed you,

01:04:39 and that person disowns and slanders you,

01:04:45 would you want to talk to them again?

01:04:52 Would you?

01:04:58 Do you know what?

01:05:00 Sin Ed O'Connor, viciously and violently abused child

01:05:05 by her mother and her father, of course, by proxy.

01:05:10 Do you know, somebody told me this, I assume it's true,

01:05:14 do you know what she said on the Dr. Phil show about her mother?

01:05:20 "Oh, this is why she couldn't get better."

01:05:25 "This is why she could not get better."

01:05:32 I'm going to just double check this.

01:05:35 I'm going to double check this. I want this to be correct.

01:05:38 At least, what the person said.

01:05:47 Ah.

01:05:52 Virginia says, "In an interview with Dr. Phil, Sin Ed O'Connor said

01:05:55 that she longs to hug her mother and be with her mother in the afterlife.

01:06:00 No wonder she never conquered her demons."

01:06:03 She longs to hug her mother and be with her mother in the afterlife,

01:06:07 and that's what they call a Stockholm Syndrome bonding

01:06:12 with a purely demonic force.

01:06:15 Not in denial. Denial is, "I'm not an alcoholic."

01:06:22 Loving the woman who beats your private parts with implements,

01:06:25 that's not denial.

01:06:32 That's not denial.

01:06:34 And that's why I say she was a terrible human being.

01:06:37 Absolutely victimized as a child. A terrible human being.

01:06:41 Because she is publicly saying that, "I love the person who abused me,"

01:06:47 which has other people swallow wholesale the propaganda about their own lives,

01:06:52 the lies told to them about their nature, as a parent, by parents.

01:06:59 Why is Stockholm Syndrome a thing? To survive childhood?

01:07:05 You have to agree with the people. I mean, come on, man.

01:07:13 If you're locked in a hole and you're dying of thirst, and somebody says,

01:07:21 "Say that two and two make five and I'll give you a bottle of water,

01:07:23 what do you do?" What do you do?

01:07:28 "Well, two and two isn't five, so I'm just going to die of thirst."

01:07:33 Yeah, you say two and two is five. Absolutely two and two is five.

01:07:36 Sure. Absolutely two and two is five.

01:07:41 I mean, this is the end of 1984, right?

01:07:47 It's survival.

01:07:51 When demons run your life, you have to swallow your own halo, right?

01:08:00 Grow some horns. You have to blend, you have to merge, you have to agree.

01:08:20 Somebody says, "My father used to tell me I was mentally retarded as a child

01:08:22 because I never got upset or erratic like he would when in conflict or debating with my father.

01:08:27 I believed him for years. I've only now begun to start untangling that excruciating mess in my childhood."

01:08:38 You did not believe him. You did not believe him.

01:08:43 I'm sorry, I really don't... I hate to tell people their own experience.

01:08:51 You didn't believe him. You had to. You had to.

01:09:04 What was the price of not believing him?

01:09:08 What would be the price of not believing him?

01:09:10 What would be the price of saying, "No, that's absolutely wrong and it's completely abusive to say that to me."

01:09:20 What would be the price?

01:09:25 We all know. We all know.

01:09:31 That's game over.

01:09:33 Those who fought back did not survive.

01:09:38 You know, this is the essence of life in combat, with immorality.

01:09:41 Know when you can win and know when you can't.

01:09:44 You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em.

01:09:48 Know when you can win and know when you can't.

01:09:52 Did you ever see my Hong Kong documentary?

01:09:55 I'll take tear gas, I'll take aggression, I'll take exploding concrete all over the place,

01:10:01 but when the tanks come, I'm out. I'm out.

01:10:14 Don't talk shit to abusive parents, Sun Tzu. Yeah.

01:10:17 Until, I mean, when you get into your teens, you can fight back, you've got some independence and all.

01:10:21 I'm writing about all of this stuff at the moment, which is why this conversation is going so deep.

01:10:40 So this fellow who wrote this says, "I can't talk to my parents since they disowned and slandered me after I confronted them."

01:10:53 So this is still a bond.

01:10:56 Again, I get the appearance like, but they told you that you were worthless,

01:11:03 and then when you confronted them with how much they hurt you, they disowned and attacked you,

01:11:07 and you still want to talk to them.

01:11:11 You still want to talk to them.

01:11:14 That's a bad bond.

01:11:23 Now, if your parents are right, you should thank them, right?

01:11:36 If you can't be a singer, and people say you can't be a singer,

01:11:39 you should thank them for not encouraging you to waste your time.

01:11:46 If your parents are right, you should thank them, right?

01:11:51 But if your parents say that you're--

01:11:53 and of course, now, when parents say, "You're nothing, you're garbage, you're stupid," right?

01:11:58 Now, if you're not smart, and your parents say, "You know, you're not particularly smart, we'll get you tested,

01:12:03 you know, your IQ is 93," or whatever it is, right?

01:12:06 If you're not particularly-- can you pause for a minute? I need to piss.

01:12:08 You stand there, and you get that warm, leggy philosophy feeling, like Ruprik.

01:12:17 So what's that old joke from that Michael Caine movie with-- oh gosh, what's his name?

01:12:31 Steve Martin. "I need to go to the bathroom." Okay.

01:12:38 It's funny. Scoundrels and-- Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, that's the one, thank you.

01:12:47 Golden shower of philosophy. That's right, you wear a diaper, cross-country, astronaut style.

01:13:00 So, what is anger for? What is anger for? Remember, it's fight or it's flight.

01:13:09 Compliance is flight, right? Compliance is flight.

01:13:14 You fly from yourself, you comply with your parents. What is anger for?

01:13:19 What does anger tell you about the situation?

01:13:28 Flight is for compliance. Flight is when it's bigger than you.

01:13:34 Right, you've got an 1800-pound grizzly charging at you, you run.

01:13:40 Right. Anger says, "You can win!" That's what anger says, "You can win. You can win."

01:13:54 No, no, anger is not get away from the situation. That's flight.

01:14:00 Anger says, "You can win. The power has shifted. Fight."

01:14:15 Can you feel angry and simultaneously feel helpless?

01:14:25 Can you feel anger and despair, anger and depression? No.

01:14:32 Anger is get your ass in gear. Run towards the fire.

01:14:41 You can put out the fire, you can win against the fire, at least you can rescue people from the fire.

01:14:50 Anger is your antibody to the illness. You follow? Remember we talked earlier?

01:15:00 It either repeats or cures you. Child abuse either repeats or cures you.

01:15:07 If you run from yourself, if you run from the abuse, it tends to repeat or at the very best it paralyzes you

01:15:14 to the point where you don't get married, don't have kids, don't whatever, right?

01:15:18 But if you turn and fight, anger says, "I can win."

01:15:30 Flight, fear, paralysis, depression, it says you can't win. You can't win.

01:15:39 Anger says, "The future can be different from the past." Right?

01:15:49 Anger says, "I'm now an adult and I'm free and independent."

01:16:02 I'm no longer a child. I'm independent. I have my own standards, I have my own values,

01:16:09 and I can call out the fucking liars because I'm no longer under the control of propagandists.

01:16:23 What if I haven't felt anger, just ran away? Then that's empirical evidence to me,

01:16:28 at least I can't tell you what your experience is, but to me that's empirical evidence

01:16:32 that you don't feel you can win.

01:16:36 Now, if you're facing a propagandist, if you're facing a propagandist,

01:16:45 why would you feel you can't win?

01:16:49 Why would you feel you can't win if you're facing a pathological liar and a propagandist?

01:16:59 Someone who abuses their power. Why would you feel you can't win?

01:17:11 You can also donate on Rumble if you are finding this helpful.

01:17:21 Because they have power over you? No, because if you're an adult they don't actually have power over you.

01:17:25 You believe the propagandist? Sure.

01:17:31 They convince you ahead of time that you're powerless?

01:17:36 Why do I always get angry when my hopes are let down every time I go out,

01:17:39 trying to meet at least one nice girl that's at least somewhat attractive and not crazy,

01:17:42 I'm getting used to this feeling of loneliness?

01:17:44 No, it means that there are other people in your life profiting from your isolation?

01:17:51 No, the reason you feel helpless when confronting a propagandist is you believe

01:17:58 that you have to get them to tell the truth, don't you?

01:18:04 You have to get them to admit the truth, you have to get them to tell the truth,

01:18:07 you have to get them to accept the truth, right?

01:18:14 Do you have that power? Do you have that power to get people to accept the truth?

01:18:27 You don't follow? All right.

01:18:33 If I believe that I can only win against a liar if the liar tells the truth,

01:18:39 I've just surrendered power to the liar to determine the victory.

01:18:44 You never let other people determine the victory standards.

01:18:48 Never let other people determine the victory standards.

01:18:52 Do you follow me?

01:19:00 If you say it is dependent on the liar accepting the truth for me to win,

01:19:07 you have surrendered all of your power and you are back under the control of the liar,

01:19:15 the propagandist.

01:19:18 Tell me if I'm wrong.

01:19:22 With my mother, could I only win if she admitted that she abused me?

01:19:34 Could I win if the standard of victory was her honor and integrity and honesty?

01:19:45 No. It would be impossible to win. I would be giving all of my power back to her.

01:19:50 Right?

01:19:58 So, you get angry because you want to change something,

01:20:04 because the future can be different from the past, because you're free, you're independent,

01:20:07 you're no longer dependent upon liars for your survival.

01:20:10 What is your standard of victory?

01:20:13 You can't have a standard of victory that you can't control.

01:20:20 Is my standard of victory people always telling the truth about me on the Internet?

01:20:29 Is my standard of truth, is my standard of victory I'll win when nobody lies about me on the Internet?

01:20:34 Or misrepresents my arguments or takes this out of context, right?

01:20:37 I showed up recently on Twitter, I guess, on X, on the Internet Hall of Fame.

01:20:43 Because back in the day when women were telling me,

01:20:47 "But you can't have an opinion about women's issues because you don't have a uterus."

01:20:51 And so I wrote back as a reply to that a satirical argument saying,

01:20:54 "Ladies, you can't be drafted. You've got to sit down when war is being discussed."

01:20:58 It was a satirical argument saying, "Look, even though you can't be drafted,

01:21:01 you have valid opinions about war. And even though I don't have a uterus,

01:21:04 I have valid opinions about female issues." It was a satirical argument.

01:21:08 And of course, as some woman said, basically,

01:21:13 "Well, some men tell me to sit down, but I'm a colonel, so they have to address me as a colonel,"

01:21:19 or something like that, right?

01:21:21 It was like, still doesn't address the issue that she wasn't drafted, but anyway.

01:21:26 What is your standard of victory when you're dealing with manipulators?

01:21:33 What is your standard of victory when you're dealing with propagandists, liars, and manipulators?

01:21:47 What is your standard of victory?

01:21:57 It has to be something that you can control.

01:22:03 All right, let's see what some of your answers are.

01:22:08 Peace of mind. Peace of mind is a bit ephemeral,

01:22:13 and peace of mind is also not directly under your control, right?

01:22:16 Because you could get, I don't know, some bad medical news or something,

01:22:18 or your dog gets sick or something, or you lose your job suddenly because you work for Bud Light.

01:22:24 So peace of mind is a little bit ephemeral. It can't really be a standard of victory.

01:22:29 The standard is simply the truth that you can verify.

01:22:32 Yeah, but that's the standard of truth. That's not the standard of dealing with manipulators.

01:22:37 Getting away from them? Not necessarily. Not necessarily.

01:22:41 Keeping your values intact? That's a bit abstract.

01:22:44 Getting everyone else to see he is a liar? Nope.

01:22:47 Because that relies on other people's integrity, which you can't count on.

01:22:51 Your inner peace? Meh.

01:22:55 The case you make? Finding out the truth about them? Freedom from the effects of the liar?

01:23:02 No, because you can't necessarily get freedom from the effects of the liar.

01:23:06 I'm not free, in a sense, of the lies that people tell about me on the internet.

01:23:11 It has an effect on, you know, am I doing any public speaking tours at the moment? Not really, right?

01:23:18 So, it has an effect.

01:23:21 Clear conscience? Yeah, that's close.

01:23:29 Not becoming a liar myself? That's close.

01:23:33 So when you're dealing with a liar and a manipulator,

01:23:37 your standard of victory is the truth you tell.

01:23:46 Because that's the only thing you have control over.

01:23:50 It's the truth you tell. When I sat down with my mother, as I did on many occasions to talk about my childhood,

01:23:54 the only thing I had control over was the truth I told.

01:23:59 I didn't have any control over her reactions, her response, what she was going to say, what she was going to do.

01:24:04 I had no control over that.

01:24:09 The only thing I can control is my own integrity, my own conscience, my own commitment to honesty.

01:24:20 Right? And the only thing you can control.

01:24:27 Somebody's dad says, "So you want to be alone in a cave with the truth?"

01:24:33 The truth is your only possibility of connecting with anyone. We can only meet in reality.

01:24:40 Is this the precipice between determinism and free will? No.

01:24:45 It's the precipice between power and paralysis.

01:24:53 If you think that your power is dependent upon other people's reactions, you have no power.

01:25:00 You're paralyzed.

01:25:05 You're paralyzed.

01:25:08 You tell the truth, and people do with it whatever the fuck they want to.

01:25:17 You tell the truth, people do.

01:25:23 See, when you were a kid, you were dependent upon how your parents reacted, which is why you complied with their lies.

01:25:30 If they were abusive. This is in general, I'm not talking about all parents, just the abusive ones.

01:25:35 When you were a kid, you were dependent upon the reactions of your parents.

01:25:44 Anger is when you accept that that's changed.

01:25:50 That that's changed. You are no longer dependent upon their reactions.

01:25:55 Therefore, you're not managing, controlling, and manipulating other people like this guy with his comment.

01:26:00 "I hope it's okay that I post this now." It's like, "Don't put me in the category of being an abusive parent."

01:26:05 This is his parents saying, "Oh, you've got to write it this way. I hope it's okay. I don't want to be intrusive."

01:26:12 Because that's going to annoy people because you're putting them in the category of abusive parents, and then they're going to ignore what you say.

01:26:19 "Well, hi, Doug. Nice to see you."

01:26:23 "Who's typing this?" When you get messages, when you hear people, "Who's typing this? Who's typing this?"

01:26:30 "I hope it's okay that I post this now. I won't be able to make it, blah, blah, blah."

01:26:33 "If this is finished for you, so to say, just ignore the question."

01:26:36 He's being so manipulative. It's his parents not wanting him to get help by pushing me away.

01:26:42 Because they say, "Well, you treat everyone like they're abusive towards you, and then look at that.

01:26:45 You don't have any companions. You don't have any friends. Nobody sympathizes with you. Nobody cares about you.

01:26:49 Nobody gives you compassion."

01:26:53 See, he's concerned that his parents slander him. In a sense, he's slandering me, and I know it's not conscious.

01:27:04 I don't take it personally.

01:27:12 But he's dealing with me as if I'm some hair-trigger guy who's going to yell at him for posting something at 6.45

01:27:19 when the show only starts at 7, when I've explicitly asked for questions.

01:27:24 So he's not talking to me. His parents are talking to me, saying,

01:27:32 "Don't give this kid any sympathy, man. We're just going to annoy you up front so you keep your distance and reject him."

01:27:41 They're putting the shield up around him. The virtue-repellent spray.

01:27:48 Do you follow what I'm saying? Does this make sense? I want to make sure I'm clear-ish.

01:27:58 I mean, how do you even know you're talking to people when people aren't talking through you?

01:28:06 Are people pushing others away, are bad parents pushing others away to keep you for themselves?

01:28:19 When you go to ask a girl out, when you ask a girl out, what can you control?

01:28:32 You want to ask a girl out, what can you control?

01:28:38 Yeah, you can control yourself.

01:28:51 Now, if you had bad parents, do they want you to meet a righteous, honorable, courageous, strong woman?

01:29:02 Or vice versa, girl to boy?

01:29:07 Do your destructive, negative, if they are abusive parents, do they want you to meet a strong, virtuous woman?

01:29:15 Nope.

01:29:20 So if you get overly nervous when asking a girl out, is that you or your parents?

01:29:26 You follow me? Who's asking the girl out? You?

01:29:33 Or are your parents making you super nervous and self-effacing and overly aggressive or awkward or like,

01:29:40 "Mine have shown no interest in my love life." Right. Which means they're sabotaging you.

01:29:47 They're sabotaging you.

01:29:49 I mean, you've heard this a million times in call-in shows.

01:29:52 "I'm 28, I've been an adult for 10 years, my parents have never shown any interest in my dating life."

01:29:58 That's sabotage, right?

01:30:00 It's like saying, "Well, my parents have never shown any interest in, you know, I'm 10 years old, I'm homeschooled,

01:30:07 my parents have never shown any interest in teaching me how to read."

01:30:09 That's pure sabotage, right?

01:30:14 See, you want a good woman, if you have abusive parents, they want no woman or they want a bad woman.

01:30:23 Now anger is when you say the future can be different from the past, right?

01:30:31 Anger is when you say the future can be different from the past.

01:30:36 And anger is when it turns from curse to cure.

01:30:43 Anger is when your abuse turns from curse to cure.

01:30:49 Because you get the antibodies.

01:30:52 And he tries to manage me, right?

01:31:02 "If this topic is finished for you, so to say, just ignore the question, thank you."

01:31:08 It's like, "Don't tell me what to do."

01:31:11 Tell me if you do this, do you try to manage both sides of the interaction?

01:31:15 Do you try to manage the other person?

01:31:17 Do you try to, "Oh, it's okay, you don't have to do this, it's fine, I'm just asking, but don't feel obligated."

01:31:23 Do you try to manage the other person too?

01:31:25 Do you know how insulting that is to the other person?

01:31:31 You think you're being nice, you're not being nice.

01:31:34 You're not being nice.

01:31:38 You're not being nice.

01:31:40 You're insulting the other person.

01:31:42 "Well, I have to tell you how to think, and it's fine if you say no."

01:31:46 It's like, "Don't manage the other person, don't do it."

01:31:49 That's you having to manage your parents because they're abusive.

01:31:53 You have to manage the other person's reactions because they're abusive, right?

01:31:57 Hey, quick question.

01:32:00 When you followed me in my heydays of social media,

01:32:04 did I spend a lot of time trying to manage other people's reactions to what I was saying?

01:32:08 No, of course not.

01:32:16 I tell the truth, right?

01:32:17 Don't try to manage other people.

01:32:27 I would just, this guy should just ask me the question.

01:32:33 You know, if it's finished for you, you can just ignore it.

01:32:36 It's like, "No, don't tell me what I can and can't do, what I should or shouldn't do."

01:32:40 Don't try and boss me around by pretending to be polite.

01:32:44 "Steph, you always go hard as hell, that's why I love you."

01:32:47 Well, thank you, I appreciate that.

01:32:48 But when you get the urge to manage someone else,

01:32:51 you are costing them in the role of threat.

01:32:54 You are costing them in the role of threat.

01:33:02 Don't do it.

01:33:03 Because if they're not a threat to you, but you treat them as if they're a threat to you,

01:33:08 they will not like you.

01:33:10 Because they know that they're not talking to you.

01:33:13 Like this guy is putting me in the role of his parents.

01:33:18 He's not talking to me.

01:33:20 No, it's not micromanaging.

01:33:22 Micromanaging is when you manage the details.

01:33:27 It's an attempt to control somebody else through manipulation.

01:33:33 That's not micromanaging.

01:33:35 It's saying, "Everybody's like my abusive parent, I had to manage them, so I have to manage everyone."

01:33:49 And it's turning the whole world into your abusive parents, and guess what?

01:33:53 You never get free.

01:33:56 You never get free.

01:33:57 You never get to grow up.

01:33:59 You never get to escape.

01:34:00 I didn't manage my mother's reactions after I became an adult.

01:34:11 I didn't manage the reactions of people on Twitter.

01:34:15 Because whose job is it to manage emotions?

01:34:20 Whose job is it to manage emotions?

01:34:24 Everybody's.

01:34:25 Absolutely.

01:34:27 And there's lots of people, right?

01:34:28 The Tome Police, right?

01:34:29 Well, what you're saying is very upsetting to me.

01:34:34 I'm literally shaking right now.

01:34:36 I'm very upset.

01:34:37 I'm hurt.

01:34:38 I'm upset.

01:34:39 I'm like, "Yeah, I'm sorry.

01:34:40 That's tough.

01:34:41 You just donated another $25.

01:34:43 Thank you very much.

01:34:45 I really, really appreciate that.

01:34:46 I mean, I know this stuff is gold, baby.

01:34:47 Gold, I'm telling you."

01:34:49 Why is it so essential to not manage other people?

01:34:53 "Seth, when you sometimes say,

01:34:57 and I don't mean this in a bad way,

01:34:58 but isn't that also managing people?"

01:35:00 No.

01:35:02 If I feel that I could be misinterpreted,

01:35:04 I want to be clear.

01:35:05 I'm also not talking to an individual here.

01:35:11 I'm not talking to a person.

01:35:14 I'm not talking to a person.

01:35:17 Why is it so essential that you don't try to manage other people?

01:35:22 "It's easier to manage someone else's emotions

01:35:30 than to control your own."

01:35:31 Factually, no.

01:35:32 Because it's impossible to manage someone else's emotions.

01:35:35 It's possible to control your own.

01:35:37 It's impossible to manage someone else's.

01:35:38 Because you don't manage them.

01:35:41 If you don't manage them,

01:35:42 then you will find out the truth about the relationship right away.

01:35:45 It's giving people the space to manage themselves,

01:35:47 to be more productive,

01:35:48 so you can see if they're lovable,

01:35:49 because you will lose track of yourself.

01:35:50 Because emotional blackmail, boom!

01:35:52 "Doug arrived late, but he's coming in hard.

01:35:55 He's coming in strong.

01:35:56 He's coming in hot."

01:35:57 You're giving them power over you.

01:35:59 Right.

01:36:00 So, this guy,

01:36:02 this guy, and again,

01:36:04 appreciate his message.

01:36:05 It's a fantastic message.

01:36:06 I'm going to copy and paste it here,

01:36:08 so everyone sees it for all eternity.

01:36:10 I'm sorry I only got to one message,

01:36:11 but it's so fruitful.

01:36:12 I will get to the other messages.

01:36:13 I'll do a show this weekend.

01:36:14 Whether it's solo or live stream.

01:36:16 But, right.

01:36:18 This guy

01:36:21 is giving me power over him

01:36:23 by trying to assert power over me.

01:36:25 He's trying to assert power over me.

01:36:27 "Oh, you can do this, but you can't do that.

01:36:28 It's fine if you want to ignore it,

01:36:29 but disababa..."

01:36:30 Right?

01:36:31 Why is he giving me power over him?

01:36:34 How is he giving me power over him?

01:36:38 How is he telling me

01:36:48 exactly how to control him?

01:36:51 "He's dependent on you for a reaction."

01:37:03 I mean,

01:37:04 I mean, he is dependent upon my reaction.

01:37:06 So,

01:37:13 let's look at this.

01:37:15 He says, "Good evening.

01:37:16 Hope it's okay that I post this now,

01:37:18 since I won't make it to the actual live stream."

01:37:20 I hope it's okay that I post this now.

01:37:22 What is he telling me

01:37:24 about what he's sensitive to?

01:37:26 What is he sensitive to?

01:37:28 I hope it's okay.

01:37:29 I hope it's okay.

01:37:30 What is he sensitive to?

01:37:32 What is he telling me

01:37:34 where he hurts the most?

01:37:36 Yeah, criticism, rejection, attack.

01:37:40 I hope it's okay.

01:37:42 Right?

01:37:44 "If this topic is finished for you, so to say,

01:37:47 just ignore the question."

01:37:48 Yeah, he doesn't want to be a nuisance.

01:37:51 He's afraid of being rejected.

01:37:52 He's afraid of being ignored.

01:37:53 He's like, "He's telling me exactly

01:37:55 where his pain points are."

01:37:57 Now, quick question.

01:38:01 In the world as a whole,

01:38:02 maybe I'm a little cynical about this

01:38:04 based upon, I don't know,

01:38:05 the last 56 and a half fucking years of my life,

01:38:08 but let me ask you this.

01:38:10 How successful is it in general

01:38:14 if you show unprocessed,

01:38:17 severe vulnerability on the internet?

01:38:19 How well does that go as a whole?

01:38:22 This is what I'm most afraid of.

01:38:27 This is where it hurts me the most.

01:38:29 This is what I'm the most sensitive to.

01:38:31 What happens

01:38:33 when you show the world

01:38:37 the softest, most vulnerable underbelly you have?

01:38:41 It is a hilarious question,

01:38:48 but it's very real as well.

01:38:50 Yeah, bring on the piranhas.

01:38:53 You are inviting people.

01:38:54 You think you're going to control other people?

01:38:56 Oh, no, baby.

01:38:57 There are people out there

01:38:58 way better at controlling others

01:39:00 than you are or than I am.

01:39:02 So you think you're managing other people?

01:39:05 Nope, you are showing other people

01:39:06 your soft underbelly,

01:39:07 and if they want to put their fucking hooks into you,

01:39:09 they know exactly where to strike.

01:39:11 "Oh, I'm going into combat.

01:39:13 I just wanted to let you know ahead of time,

01:39:15 this part of my armor is totally weak.

01:39:17 I haven't really taken care of it,

01:39:18 so if you could just not hit me

01:39:19 on this little spot of my armor,

01:39:21 that would be really great

01:39:22 because it's just like falling apart,

01:39:24 and also, like I've got this,

01:39:25 this is where my jugular is.

01:39:27 I also have an old injury there.

01:39:29 Sometimes it aches when there's going to be a storm.

01:39:31 So right here, if you could just,

01:39:33 like we're going into combat

01:39:34 and we're playing for the future of the world,

01:39:36 but if you could just not,

01:39:37 just not hit me here."

01:39:39 Now, of course,

01:39:40 so,

01:39:46 you get it, right?

01:39:49 You show your vulnerability.

01:39:51 You show your vulnerability.

01:39:56 You think you're controlling other people,

01:39:58 you're surrendering to them.

01:39:59 You're not controlling the best out there,

01:40:01 you're surrendering to the worst out there.

01:40:03 Keep a few secrets, my friends.

01:40:07 Play a little hard to get.

01:40:10 Be a little cryptic,

01:40:13 be a little unreadable, right?

01:40:15 I mean, imagine, right?

01:40:21 Imagine you go on a date, right?

01:40:23 You go on a date,

01:40:24 and the woman's like,

01:40:25 "If we become..."

01:40:27 It's like, "Don't ever leave me.

01:40:28 Don't ever leave me.

01:40:29 I can't stand it.

01:40:30 I couldn't stand it if you left me."

01:40:32 Right?

01:40:33 Yeah, in professional boxing,

01:40:37 if one injure knows the other has an injury,

01:40:39 they'll always exploit it.

01:40:40 Of course they will.

01:40:41 Okay, let me ask you this.

01:40:45 Out there in the world,

01:40:46 I'm not talking about at home

01:40:47 or in this wonderful community.

01:40:48 Out there in the world,

01:40:49 what percentage of your life is combat?

01:40:53 Out there in the world,

01:40:54 what percentage of life is combat?

01:40:56 Not among your friends,

01:41:01 your family,

01:41:02 your lover,

01:41:03 your pets.

01:41:04 Out there in the world,

01:41:05 this is for men and women,

01:41:07 what percentage of life is combat?

01:41:09 10,000 percent.

01:41:20 Oh, what percentage?

01:41:21 Sorry, let me get to your comments here.

01:41:23 Let me get to your comments.

01:41:24 99.5 percent.

01:41:27 All of it.

01:41:28 95 percent.

01:41:29 All the time.

01:41:30 All.

01:41:31 100 percent.

01:41:32 80 percent.

01:41:33 Minus high.

01:41:34 10,000.

01:41:35 90.

01:41:36 100.

01:41:37 All.

01:41:38 Over 9,000.

01:41:39 Right.

01:41:40 Well,

01:41:41 I love the fact that you guys are here.

01:41:45 Thank you very much for your support.

01:41:47 Tips always welcome.

01:41:49 You know how much value I'm providing,

01:41:50 and not.

01:41:51 Like, okay, let's see.

01:41:52 I know how many people are watching.

01:41:53 I know how many people are watching.

01:41:55 How many people have tipped,

01:41:57 just out of curiosity?

01:41:59 About 5 percent of you.

01:42:03 Yeah, about 5 percent of you.

01:42:05 Come on.

01:42:06 Come on.

01:42:08 Thank you for those of you who have tipped,

01:42:10 but really, 5 percent?

01:42:11 Free riders.

01:42:14 Come on, you'll feel better,

01:42:15 I promise you.

01:42:16 You just helped me strum my deepest chord.

01:42:18 Thank you, Steph.

01:42:19 I was going to wait until the end.

01:42:20 I appreciate that, Chris,

01:42:21 but don't wait until the end.

01:42:23 Don't wait until the end.

01:42:24 All right.

01:42:28 You pay monthly,

01:42:30 and I appreciate that, too.

01:42:31 That's fantastic.

01:42:32 That's fantastic.

01:42:33 Now,

01:42:34 what percentage?

01:42:38 Okay, so let's just look at me right now, right?

01:42:40 Am I combating you?

01:42:43 Am I in combat with you?

01:42:48 Yes.

01:42:49 Yes, I am.

01:42:51 What am I fighting in you?

01:42:53 What am I fighting in you?

01:42:55 And in myself every day.

01:42:57 Just so we're all in this together, right?

01:42:59 What am I fighting in you?

01:43:01 Illusion, ignorance, entrapment, enslavement,

01:43:05 lies, propaganda, falsehoods.

01:43:07 Right?

01:43:09 I'm fighting the abusers.

01:43:10 I'm fighting to free you.

01:43:11 I'm fighting for you to stop thinking

01:43:13 that you are dysfunctional because of abuse,

01:43:16 because, as I said at the beginning,

01:43:17 you can't ever not be abused if you were abused,

01:43:19 so you can't ever not be dysfunctional.

01:43:21 Right?

01:43:22 I'm fighting paralysis, right?

01:43:24 When somebody calls up me,

01:43:29 calls me up for a call-in show,

01:43:32 am I in combat with them?

01:43:34 Yeah.

01:43:37 Yes, I am.

01:43:39 It's ninja moves.

01:43:41 It's a warrior combat.

01:43:42 It's fighting.

01:43:43 It's kickboxing.

01:43:44 It's I'm fighting.

01:43:45 I'm fighting.

01:43:46 And you can help people when you're fighting.

01:43:48 If your friend is being beaten up

01:43:51 and you go and fight, you're fighting.

01:43:53 If your friend gets trapped,

01:43:54 like a log falls and you lift up the log,

01:43:56 you're fighting.

01:43:57 Yeah.

01:44:01 Let me ask you this.

01:44:03 Am I in combat with everyone else

01:44:05 who's doing a show right now?

01:44:06 Am I in combat with movies,

01:44:11 with television, with podcasters,

01:44:13 with live streamers, with Twitch,

01:44:15 with the women who do ice cream so good?

01:44:19 Am I in combat with sex cam workers?

01:44:25 I am.

01:44:27 I am in absolute combat with everyone else

01:44:31 who would distract you from the good

01:44:33 and essential work of truth and virtue.

01:44:35 When you are approaching a man or a woman

01:44:44 with romantic interest,

01:44:46 are you in combat?

01:44:48 You're in combat with her skepticism.

01:44:52 You're in combat with everyone else

01:44:53 who might want to ask you out.

01:44:54 You're in combat.

01:44:57 I mean, you're in a lineup.

01:45:04 People cut in line.

01:45:05 You're in combat.

01:45:06 I'm not saying all of life is fighting

01:45:10 because we have the home,

01:45:11 we have the loved ones,

01:45:12 we have our family,

01:45:13 we have our friends, right?

01:45:15 But in the world as a whole,

01:45:20 yeah, you're in combat every time you drive.

01:45:22 I can't believe I'm choosing to watch

01:45:25 "Death" over a hot 20-year-old girl.

01:45:26 Well, this is how you get the hot 20-year-old girl,

01:45:28 because you come across strong,

01:45:29 you don't show her your weak spot,

01:45:30 and you don't try and manipulate or control her.

01:45:32 Finish him.

01:45:35 Without struggle, there is no life.

01:45:37 Let me ask you this.

01:45:42 What do you fight about with yourself

01:45:44 during the day?

01:45:46 I mean, we've got somebody here

01:45:48 who wanted to peace, fighting for that,

01:45:49 he's fighting that.

01:45:50 What do you fight about with yourself

01:45:54 during the day?

01:45:56 Sloth.

01:46:00 Yeah.

01:46:02 I mean, my daughter was...

01:46:08 Thank you very much.

01:46:10 I appreciate that.

01:46:12 Sayeth the Lloyd.

01:46:13 That's very funny.

01:46:14 I appreciate that support.

01:46:16 I really do.

01:46:17 That's very kind.

01:46:18 I mean, I don't know if you care.

01:46:23 Do you want to know what I was fighting about

01:46:25 with myself today?

01:46:26 Do you care?

01:46:29 I mean, we're all the same, right?

01:46:30 Yeah, you want to know?

01:46:32 I fight to get out of bed in the morning,

01:46:36 because I really enjoy sitting there

01:46:37 thinking about my day.

01:46:38 And then I'm like,

01:46:40 "Oh, it's taking me too long

01:46:41 "to put on deodorant and moisturize my face

01:46:44 "and brush my teeth,

01:46:45 "and I should get downstairs

01:46:47 "and get my day started."

01:46:48 And then I sort of get my day started.

01:46:50 This morning, my daughter wanted to go out to brunch,

01:46:51 and she told me a long, complicated story.

01:46:53 A little bit at times I had to fight to pay attention.

01:46:56 And I wanted to get yogurt and fruit

01:46:58 with a little bit of honey,

01:46:59 and I had to fight myself

01:47:00 because the big was too many calories,

01:47:02 so I got the smaller one.

01:47:04 And then I came home,

01:47:05 and my daughter and I were playing a video game.

01:47:09 I wanted to do some side quests.

01:47:10 She wanted to do the main quest,

01:47:11 so we had not a conflict,

01:47:12 but we had a disagreement about that.

01:47:14 And then I got up,

01:47:15 and I was a little bit sleepy,

01:47:17 so I was like,

01:47:18 "Oh, I should get to work on my book,"

01:47:19 but then I also feel a little bit tired,

01:47:21 so I did rest for, I don't know,

01:47:23 20 minutes or whatever it is

01:47:24 and got some refreshment.

01:47:25 And then I was like,

01:47:26 "I should have another coffee,"

01:47:27 but I try to have only two cups

01:47:29 of caffeinated coffee a day,

01:47:30 and I had a coffee this morning,

01:47:32 so maybe I should just have a half-caff,

01:47:33 and that way I can have another one later.

01:47:35 And then I went to,

01:47:37 I'm doing weights,

01:47:39 I'm doing a weight machine

01:47:40 while writing the book

01:47:41 'cause I voice dictate,

01:47:42 and I was like,

01:47:44 "Should I keep writing?

01:47:45 "How many words did I do?

01:47:46 "Ooh, I did 5,000 words,

01:47:48 "but I'm really in a roll.

01:47:49 "I should keep going."

01:47:50 And then I came back,

01:47:51 and I was like,

01:47:52 "Oh, I don't really want to have too much to eat,"

01:47:53 because I was still kind of full from last night,

01:47:55 and I'm losing weight.

01:47:56 I'm down to like 190 or whatever it is

01:47:58 from a high of, I don't know,

01:47:59 230 or something at some point,

01:48:01 or 228 or something.

01:48:03 And so,

01:48:04 and then I was playing a video game

01:48:06 right before the show,

01:48:07 and I'm like,

01:48:08 "Oh, but I want to simultaneously stream

01:48:09 "to a bunch of other places,

01:48:10 "so I've got to stop the game

01:48:11 "and go do something else."

01:48:12 So, I'm fighting.

01:48:14 And this is not a complaint.

01:48:15 This is not a bad thing.

01:48:17 I'm not complaining about it.

01:48:20 I mean, does it sound exhausting?

01:48:22 It's not.

01:48:23 That's just life.

01:48:26 Great impression of how a wife explains their day.

01:48:29 Somebody says,

01:48:30 "I fought today with if I should be productive

01:48:31 "or not at work.

01:48:32 "I'm the lead IT engineer

01:48:33 "for a number of big companies.

01:48:34 "Their need for problem solving

01:48:35 "is the only thing that drives me some days.

01:48:36 "The only thing that makes me want to get up

01:48:38 "in the morning sometimes."

01:48:39 Right.

01:48:41 I'm also checking the other places,

01:48:43 if you want to tell me.

01:48:44 I'm checking over here on Rumble.

01:48:47 What do you fight about?

01:48:52 Do you fight stress sometimes?

01:48:53 Do you fight worry sometimes?

01:48:54 Do you fight inertia sometimes?

01:48:56 Do you fight procrastination sometimes?

01:48:58 Do you fight greed sometimes?

01:48:59 Of course you do!

01:49:02 Of course you do.

01:49:04 Do you fight temptation sometimes?

01:49:06 Absolutely.

01:49:07 Are you quitting drugs, smoking, drinking, porn?

01:49:10 Are you fighting something?

01:49:12 You fight urges.

01:49:13 Yes!

01:49:14 That's life!

01:49:18 That's life.

01:49:19 Am I wrong?

01:49:22 Look, we're up to 6 or 7% of people tipping.

01:49:25 I'm fighting your stinginess right now, right now.

01:49:30 You know this is the best conversation in the world.

01:49:32 You know that this is the best conversation in the world.

01:49:35 You fight the urge to hate women.

01:49:37 Absolutely.

01:49:38 We fight disappointment.

01:49:39 We fight entitlement.

01:49:41 You fight your own will.

01:49:44 You sometimes fight your own capacity for greatness,

01:49:46 and that's the biggest fight of all.

01:49:48 Am I wrong?

01:49:49 What if I could be great?

01:49:50 What if I could be magnificent?

01:49:53 I chose this conversation over some shitty movie.

01:49:56 You fight the urge to control people.

01:49:57 Yes!

01:49:58 This guy fought and failed, and you know.

01:50:01 Somebody says, Vince says, "I just signed up today.

01:50:03 I signed up and sent 50 bucks.

01:50:04 Thank you very much.

01:50:05 I appreciate that.

01:50:06 Super kind.

01:50:07 Really, really appreciate that."

01:50:09 Fight for the future I want.

01:50:10 Yes!

01:50:13 Ah, ah, here's a big one.

01:50:15 Here's a big one.

01:50:16 Come on.

01:50:17 Come on.

01:50:19 Give me a 1 to 10, how much do you fight self-criticism,

01:50:21 self-attack, self-denigration?

01:50:23 How much do you fight?

01:50:25 1 to 10.

01:50:26 Self-criticism, self-denigration, self-attack.

01:50:30 Yeah, everybody's high.

01:50:33 Everybody's high.

01:50:35 Everybody's high on this.

01:50:37 Right.

01:50:43 I started off with a half-calf, which I never have at 7 o'clock,

01:50:49 because I felt a little too tired to do a show tonight,

01:50:52 because I had just been writing the peaceful parenting stuff,

01:50:55 which is really draining.

01:50:56 I wrote 5,000 words today, and it was a lot of work.

01:51:04 Do you fight disappointment to try and regain your enthusiasm?

01:51:08 Do you fight your enthusiasm so you don't get hurt?

01:51:12 Do you fight with your friends about what the truth of the world is?

01:51:15 Do you fight with people on the internet?

01:51:17 How much of life is combat?

01:51:21 I want you to see what I wrote.

01:51:22 It was the first five comments or so on Rumble.

01:51:24 Let me go and see.

01:51:30 Rumble, you say?

01:51:38 Yeah, I don't know which one it is on Rumble.

01:51:42 Hearing about all this combat is exhausting.

01:51:45 See, now you're fighting.

01:51:48 You're fighting how much fighting there is in the world.

01:51:52 Do you even fight your internalized stuff?

01:51:54 Absolutely.

01:51:55 We've got an animal nature that's R-selected,

01:51:58 which fights with our K-selected intellect, and vice versa.

01:52:03 When you're attracted to a girl just for her looks,

01:52:05 or a guy just for his looks, we fight that urge as well.

01:52:12 This really is the best conversation.

01:52:13 Your words have helped me guide so many people, 100 to 120.

01:52:16 Thank you. I appreciate that.

01:52:18 I appreciate that.

01:52:20 The internal stuff, we all have them, don't lie.

01:52:23 As do I.

01:52:25 As do I.

01:52:26 When I'm attracted to a girl, I better get evil vibes.

01:52:28 I fight it.

01:52:30 You know the meme on the internet?

01:52:37 Oh, look at that.

01:52:38 It's 2% of people on Rumble who've tipped.

01:52:40 Well, I guess we know who's the more generous and kind people here.

01:52:48 The pretty girl who's in a mugshot, who's done something terrible.

01:52:55 Do you know what people say about her?

01:52:58 "I can save her."

01:53:01 "I can save her."

01:53:03 You fight that.

01:53:05 You fight the urge to white knight, to protect,

01:53:08 to turn on your brother because a woman is manipulating you.

01:53:15 Look, maybe this is just me.

01:53:17 Maybe I'm a little bit more conflicty.

01:53:19 I enjoy it. I think it's life. I embrace it.

01:53:22 I'm not going to try and be a oneness like Ether,

01:53:25 like the fart breath of a smoke from a genie.

01:53:28 I'm just going to be at one and peace.

01:53:30 No, there's times where that happens for sure.

01:53:37 I once asked a girl out because she complained about loneliness.

01:53:41 I'm not proud.

01:53:43 But, you know, I was young.

01:53:46 I can save her. I don't be alone.

01:53:50 Right.

01:53:52 So, is it just me?

01:54:00 Is there a lot of fighting in life?

01:54:04 And there's, you know, relaxation. Fine. Yeah, absolutely.

01:54:08 I'm definitely a fighter. I love being in a philosophy

01:54:10 because my aggression is channeled into something good.

01:54:13 We're going to fight. I mean, and let me ask you this

01:54:17 because there's women here too, right?

01:54:19 So, ladies, do you think that there's less fight in the life of a woman

01:54:23 than there is in the life of a man?

01:54:25 Do you think that there's less fight?

01:54:27 Hit me with a W if you think women fight less than men.

01:54:31 Hit me with an M if you think it's the same.

01:54:33 W for women, M for male.

01:54:35 Women, if you think women have less fight in them or fight less than men.

01:54:41 Yeah, it's the same. It's the same.

01:54:47 Yeah, all the internal fights, fights with each other.

01:54:50 Women fight through reputation attack,

01:54:52 which is why you've got the modern cancel culture and all of that, right?

01:54:55 Yeah, women do tall poppy syndrome. There's a lot of drama.

01:54:58 Yeah, for sure. For sure.

01:55:02 So, Vince, you've got to tell me who you are on the other platform

01:55:05 or I can't find your question.

01:55:07 Or you can just repaste it. Just copy and paste it here and I'll find that.

01:55:10 I'm not trying to ignore you. I just...

01:55:12 Women fight more? Eh, you know.

01:55:17 So here's the thing.

01:55:19 What if life is constant fighting and you either fight for good,

01:55:22 for ill, or for nothing?

01:55:26 Right? Just putting this out as a possibility.

01:55:28 Maybe life is a constant combat.

01:55:30 You either fight for good, you fight for ill, or you fight nothing.

01:55:38 What's it going to be?

01:55:41 Listen, have you ever had... Let me ask you this.

01:55:44 Have you ever had a week in your life,

01:55:50 no conflict, no combat, no fighting yourself,

01:55:54 no competition with others.

01:55:56 Have you ever had a week in your life,

01:55:58 and this may sound like a...

01:56:00 If you have, please let me know. I'm absolutely open to the data, right?

01:56:03 Have you ever had a week in your life,

01:56:05 no inner conflict, no combat, no conflict, no competition with others?

01:56:11 Perfect serenity and peace of mind.

01:56:13 Never have I been in a coma.

01:56:17 I wish. Do you? Do you?

01:56:20 You think we got to the top of the food chain by...

01:56:24 Not!

01:56:27 Oh, you've had that? Yes, but not so good the devil finds work for idle hands.

01:56:30 Okay, so you're just deferring, right?

01:56:32 Your honeymoon? Right.

01:56:36 Okay, so for the most part, no, right?

01:56:43 So you're going to fight.

01:56:46 You're going to fight.

01:56:48 Now, you can fight that,

01:56:50 but then you're just fighting the fact that you're going to fight,

01:56:53 just adding more inception layers of fighting.

01:56:55 Just accept it.

01:56:56 Yeah, there's always a challenge, there's always a struggle,

01:56:58 there's always a combat, there's always a conflict, and it's fine.

01:57:02 That's fine.

01:57:05 Right? You can be sitting there watching TV.

01:57:08 It's like, "Ah, maybe the show isn't that great,

01:57:10 maybe it's getting kind of repetitive.

01:57:12 Do I want a snack? Maybe I should get a snack.

01:57:14 Maybe I shouldn't get a snack.

01:57:15 I should probably get to bed.

01:57:16 I'm not that tired, but I know I'm going to be tired."

01:57:18 Like, doesn't this always happen?

01:57:20 Aren't you constantly weighing alternatives and possibilities?

01:57:22 Maybe it's just me.

01:57:24 The struggle ends when you're dead.

01:57:31 Because, you know, I'm a peaceful parent, right?

01:57:33 Yeah, one more episode.

01:57:35 I'm a peaceful parent, so I have the amazing situation

01:57:39 where I get to see a daughter who was raised with peace and reason,

01:57:43 and seeing that it's a bit human nature, isn't it?

01:57:48 How would you judo move your inner parents into an asset?

01:57:52 Well, your inner parents are an asset.

01:57:54 Your inner parents are there.

01:57:58 Your inner parents are there to protect you from your outer parents.

01:58:01 But not just from your outer parents, right?

01:58:04 Your inner parents are there to protect you from people like your parents.

01:58:11 Right? They were there to protect you from your parents.

01:58:15 And if your parents don't reform, let's say you get them out of your life

01:58:17 because they just remain relentlessly abusive,

01:58:19 your inner parents are there to protect you from everyone like your parents.

01:58:24 I see you, Doug.

01:58:27 I see you.

01:58:29 And if you are on Rumble, you just click the little dollar

01:58:31 right below the message thing there, and you can help me out.

01:58:36 Like, if you get the smallpox vaccine,

01:58:40 it didn't just protect me against whatever was in the smallpox vaccine,

01:58:43 it protected me against smallpox as a whole.

01:58:46 All smallpox, right? That was the general idea.

01:58:54 Let's see here.

01:58:58 Alright. Somebody says, "Oh, this is Vince.

01:59:00 In many of our problems and issues arise from a kind of nitpicking tendency

01:59:04 towards coming up with explanations for why our problems are insurmountable.

01:59:07 Having been a drug addict and therefore having known dozens of addicts,

01:59:10 I can sniff out bullshit excuses before they're even spoken.

01:59:13 A difficult part of me taking my life back was striking a delicate balance

01:59:15 between being forgiving of myself while also demanding progress from myself.

01:59:19 What are your thoughts on this?"

01:59:25 That's a good question. It's a lot in there.

01:59:29 Nitpicking tendency.

01:59:34 Okay, do you guys know where nitpicking comes from?

01:59:36 Hit me with a "Y." How relevant is this? Let me just copy this.

01:59:39 Hit me with a "Y" if you're a nitpicker.

01:59:44 Hit me with a "Y" if you're a nitpicker.

01:59:46 No hate, no judgment, no... right? There's pluses and minuses to it.

01:59:51 A bit.

01:59:53 Which bit exactly? I'm just kidding.

01:59:57 Nitpicker. Okay. Do you know where nitpicking comes from?

02:00:03 Nitpicking comes out of fear of verbal abuse.

02:00:06 Whenever I've seen a nitpicker, they've been verbally abused in the past.

02:00:12 Right? And so you try to close off all loopholes, you try to get every exception,

02:00:17 you try to cross the I's and dot the T's in the hopes that you won't be attacked.

02:00:24 Yeah, hypercritical parents. That is right. That is right.

02:00:28 Oh, swordsmen? Yeah, it's a defense against verbal abuse.

02:00:34 Yeah, Jared, come on. Of course we know that one, right? Yeah.

02:00:38 Oh, holy shit, I'm definitely a major nitpicker then. That checks out, lines up with my experience.

02:00:42 And again, I say this with sympathy, it's not right, it's just...

02:00:45 Well, if I get everything right, I can't get attacked.

02:00:47 Perfectionism is the same thing. Perfectionism is fear of attack, for imperfection.

02:00:52 And of course, whoever attacks you is being vastly more imperfect than you could ever be, right?

02:00:58 It's a form of magical thinking that if you get everything right, you won't be attacked.

02:01:02 Spoiler, well, let me ask you this. Did nitpicking end up with you not getting attacked?

02:01:09 It's preemptive self-defense against attack, right?

02:01:19 Yeah, it doesn't work, right?

02:01:21 I mean, it's magical thinking that you need, because you've got to survive, right?

02:01:27 Yeah, but nitpicking, it's a way of stalling the conversation too.

02:01:33 So that... So, parents also, if you're in a very powerful conversation leading to the truth about your parents,

02:01:38 your inner parents will go into nitpick to derail the conversation,

02:01:41 so you don't get to the truth that might harm their interests.

02:01:46 If that makes sense.

02:01:55 Me? No, I always got attacked. I'm struggling to repost my first comment right now.

02:01:59 Yeah, it is magical thinking.

02:02:01 Like, did you ever have the fear, if you had like restless, abusive parents,

02:02:04 did you have the feeling like, "Oh, well, you know, but if I...

02:02:08 if the house is tidy, then I won't get attacked.

02:02:13 If I make my bed, I won't get attacked. If I've done my homework, then I won't get attacked.

02:02:17 If I just do X, Y, or Z, then I won't get attacked."

02:02:27 Like, honestly, this was the difference between my brother and I.

02:02:29 My brother was like, "Let's tidy up the place so mom won't get mad."

02:02:32 I mean, like, it's not about whether the place is tidy or not.

02:02:35 I'm not taking ownership for her bad temper.

02:02:37 We'd always have that conflict. "You've got to tidy up!"

02:02:40 It's like, not going to make any difference.

02:02:42 If she's in a good mood, doesn't matter.

02:02:44 If she's in a bad mood, doesn't matter.

02:02:47 Did your brother ever bully you? Yes.

02:02:50 Ah, yeah, got to check all the boxes to avoid attack, right?

02:02:54 And this magical thinking, right?

02:02:56 I mean, it's magical primitive thinking.

02:02:58 Like, well, if we sacrifice a goat, we'll get good rains.

02:03:02 You can't control the rains, but you can control your anxiety by magical thinking, right?

02:03:10 Somebody says, "I would snark at my dad to attack me for some reason.

02:03:13 I think I'd rather be attacked than be in constant anticipation to be attacked."

02:03:17 Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, you poke it to get it over with.

02:03:20 Yeah, that's natural.

02:03:22 "Every time I did something at home, I was trying to cover any fault in my work

02:03:25 my parents could criticize." Yes, that's right.

02:03:28 "The physical abuse was so in the forefront of my mind

02:03:30 that I did not realize how much damage had been done from the verbal abuse."

02:03:33 Well, physical abuse and verbal abuse are usually two sides of the same coin

02:03:36 because the physical abuse is part of the threat of verbal abuse.

02:03:40 It's always in the background, right?

02:03:43 "Very superstitious. Why are siblings cruel to each other?"

02:03:48 The parents set them against each other so that they don't ally against the parents.

02:03:55 All right.

02:03:57 Oh, two hours, ten minutes. Any last questions?

02:04:00 Hit me with a one to ten, how would you rate the show?

02:04:03 No, minus ten if you thought it sucked. Minus ten to plus ten.

02:04:05 How do you rate the conversation tonight?

02:04:07 I want to get your feedback. I should do this more often.

02:04:09 What can I do better? How can I improve?

02:04:11 Always, always, always keen to serve you as best I can.

02:04:14 I always try to aim to do the very greatest possible show

02:04:18 because I feel as high as you aim, you always get there, right?

02:04:22 That was a great one. Plus ten, a hundred, eight.

02:04:26 Plus eight, 80% I'll take that.

02:04:28 "Looking forward to the truth about the Wild West."

02:04:31 "The show went so quick this time."

02:04:33 Well, we were taking down falsehoods like nobody's business, right?

02:04:37 "Really powerful show today, ten out of ten, thank you."

02:04:40 "The top G, top thousand."

02:04:44 "My first show to actually watch."

02:04:46 You know, it's really something to be here live, right?

02:04:48 You can tell your grandkids, right?

02:04:50 "Nine ten for the first third of the show, ten for the rest."

02:04:52 "You've been killing it."

02:04:54 By it, you mean delusions, right?

02:04:56 "Plus ten, thank you very much, I appreciate that."

02:04:58 "This is the first time I've been a part of it.

02:05:00 I could retype what I wrote when I signed up at 10 a.m."

02:05:03 If you find it, just send it to me.

02:05:06 You can always email it to me.

02:05:08 And if you really want a big, involved conversation,

02:05:12 "I just bought all your books off Amazon.

02:05:14 Do you have a recommended reading order?"

02:05:16 No, I would go with topic.

02:05:19 If you want philosophy, you might want to start with essential philosophy

02:05:23 and then go to "On Truth, the Tyranny of Illusion."

02:05:27 And if you want, I've had some cancellations

02:05:32 from people who just seem to be delaying endlessly.

02:05:35 If you want to call in, I've got some spots open.

02:05:38 Callin@freedomain.com.

02:05:40 I'm not doing quite as many because I'm working on the book,

02:05:42 but I still have a couple of slots opened up.

02:05:44 Steph detonated so many nukes, I thought he was Kim Jong-un.

02:05:47 So yes, callin@freedomain.com.

02:05:53 I've got some room and would be very happy.

02:05:55 I love the call-ins and it's one of the main reasons I do it.

02:05:58 Call-ins and live streams, you know.

02:06:00 I love the tips on how to find people's weak spots in their armor.

02:06:03 Actually, it was a little bit more about how to hide your own weak spots.

02:06:06 But hey, however you do it.

02:06:08 With all the work you do, it's like you've got 48 hours in a day.

02:06:11 Well, rest when you can too and embrace the conflict and the challenges of life.

02:06:15 All right, thanks everyone so much.

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02:07:04 Bye.

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