One-on-One with Minerals Commission - Badwam Mpensenpensemu on Adom TV (24-07-23)

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05:54 Contract mining alone.
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07:11 2018, say, catering services, about $26 million.
07:25 For just about 13 or 14 mines.
07:29 - Last year? - Last year.
07:31 Wow, that is one.
07:33 Also, that's also another opportunity.
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08:02 Another area which is an opportunity.
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08:07 Before 2018, free for all.
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08:22 Before that, almost $100 million.
08:37 2021 report, that is two years ago.
08:43 The amount of money companies spend here,
08:48 I think just about 13 or 14 companies,
08:51 on fuel alone is $304 million.
08:55 So within two years, you are jumping
08:59 from roughly $100 to $304 million.
09:01 - That's what we're getting, about 200%.
09:03 - Yes, it's kind of like that.
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09:07 - Four stations of supply, mining sites,
09:10 and fuel, are Ghanian-owned companies.
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09:18 Yes, and are private companies.
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09:29 So that means that within a,
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09:44 Wow, so look at new mines here,
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10:01 $1 billion mine, within the next two or so years.
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10:05 Four new mines within two and a half years.
10:08 So by two and a half years time,
10:12 if you have petrol, maybe 500 million.
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10:16 In the next six, seven years,
10:17 petrol will be a billion dollar industry.
10:20 - For the mining sector?
10:21 - Yes, just petrol.
10:22 $304 million, we had two years ago, 2021 report.
10:26 Where will the money stay?
10:28 If you don't own the mine,
10:29 do you also want foreigners to come in,
10:34 set up four stations and supply fuel to the mine?
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10:39 - Medical services.
10:41 Medical services, so this year,
10:44 they are too less, you know, so.
10:46 If the foreign companies,
10:47 some of the medical services in the country,
10:50 we say we're going to do pay, and no one will know.
10:54 If you have a good instance,
10:55 we'll say, no foreign company be in the area
10:57 of medical services, Swiss, German company be, ISOS.
11:01 If the last thing, the Asian mining companies,
11:04 for the country, we say, hey, from January this year,
11:06 we say, we be able to take it from January every year.
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11:14 - The company now be able to provide the medical services
11:18 among the miners, this is what the mine is.
11:20 Because we see,
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11:26 - Sure.
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11:55 So Newmont alone, you're looking about 8,000 people
12:15 under coverage.
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13:22 All the mines in Ghana,
13:23 they say Ghana for private security.
13:28 The private security of the mine,
13:30 catering services, haulage.
13:32 - Medical services.
13:33 - Medical services.
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13:38 A year or two, maybe two, three years ago,
13:41 before they say any lubricants, two, three years ago,
13:43 medical started this year.
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13:47 Tailings storage facility.
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13:54 And to generate this here,
14:15 and perform the companies from Australia,
14:19 what do you call it?
14:20 - South Africa.
14:21 - South Africa.
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14:26 Phase one and two is over $72 million.
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14:52 You cannot capture that.
14:54 So, (speaking in foreign language)
14:57 support services.
14:59 Services that support the activities of the mine
15:03 and our operations.
15:05 But (speaking in foreign language)
15:06 even ownership.
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15:12 Yes.
15:15 Now Chinese forbid here.
15:17 And now Ghana government, what, 20% says.
15:19 Now 80% in Ghana, (speaking in foreign language)
15:21 This is a mine that has been there since 1941.
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15:25 Proud.
15:26 Said the entire Ghana bauxite company,
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15:30 in the Seshu area, 100% state and Ghanaian owned.
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15:37 We need to see more of this.
15:39 Then we can be proud, say,
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15:44 Ghana foreclosed about 40% or more.
15:50 Wow.
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15:54 You see increasingly, Ghanaians owning the mine.
15:57 And yet Chincha said,
15:59 you can also own the mine by leasing and stock exchange.
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16:09 History way here,
16:12 maybe let me put it in a contest.
16:13 Then you understand where we are coming from.
16:16 Maybe a problem, you see.
16:18 And then where we must go.
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16:24 In primary school also,
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16:27 many of the mines used to be Ghanaian owned mines.
16:30 Not prestige, dunkwa.
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16:35 As usual, they mismanage it.
16:37 As I said, they are,
16:38 the various GEOC, pharmaceutical,
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16:42 State owned enterprises.
16:43 State owned enterprises.
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16:49 Economic recovery program.
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17:02 It was discouraged.
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17:08 To be precise, phosphate.
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17:33 1989, 34 years ago.
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17:39 All governments for the past 34 years,
17:43 I understand.
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17:48 It was just in about four regions.
17:50 Actually five.
17:51 Asante, Eastern, Western.
17:55 And then, what do we call it?
17:59 Eastern region, Central region, Asante region,
18:03 Western region, and the Upper East.
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18:10 And confound also, maybe 100,000 or so in it.
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18:23 Because mostly, (speaking in foreign language)
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18:34 That is the cause of the issue.
18:38 Well, lastly, (speaking in foreign language)
18:58 That is landscape for you.
19:00 Prospecting, exploration, to understand basic train
19:04 in Swishem, (speaking in foreign language)
19:09 That is last game, they practice everywhere in the world.
19:19 But small scale, because you have the largest
19:22 artisans in the area in Africa.
19:25 - Ghana? - Yes.
19:26 It's a big place in the developing world.
19:29 Well, there are 40 tons of gold, a third of Ghana's gold,
19:32 no less than a third of Ghana's gold
19:34 comes from small scale mining.
19:36 And we didn't do anything.
19:39 And now, because of technology, and all those things.
19:43 So you're talking about 12, 13 regions now.
19:50 And then we have moved from four to about 12, 13 regions.
19:54 From barely 100,000 now to about three million people.
19:58 - In a small scale? - Yes, in a small scale.
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20:04 Practically, the rest of Ghana,
20:07 be a small scale is going on.
20:10 Whether lawfully or illegally.
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20:16 One of the major drivers of Galamsey,
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20:21 1,000 regions.
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20:24 And this particular one,
20:26 if we don't tackle it, we'll go round, round, round, round.
20:34 Which is lack of mineralized areas
20:38 for the small scale miners to work.
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20:42 Number one problem.
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20:48 One of the major drivers, in fact,
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20:55 Particular problem, we remember 9/10.
20:58 Lack of mineralized areas.
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21:08 So what is the issue?
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21:15 Hey, no more will go up.
21:17 And now, I'm going to jump into, will be concession.
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21:22 Almost all the large scale mining companies,
21:24 Galamsey for a home.
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21:31 How are we giving land to them?
21:36 You will block out areas, we believe.
21:40 One block out, you're blocking,
21:41 you're blocking as I said,
21:42 almost in all the regions in Ghana.
21:45 But how do you know?
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21:50 Because you see, 20, 30, 40 years ago,
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22:09 The N5 Geological Survey,
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22:14 Is it because now you name?
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22:25 Because Minerals Commission has been around for 37 years.
22:27 Every year we are here.
22:29 That time, normal forming the ministerial,
22:32 I am starting engagement.
22:33 That was the first thing we told them.
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22:45 Fortunately, no.
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22:50 The technical assistance will be
22:51 to Ghana Geological Survey Authority.
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23:00 40, 50 million, $40, 50 million a year.
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23:15 In the medium to long term.
23:17 What is the solution?
23:18 Because you see, (speaking in foreign language)
23:22 Fine, which is good.
23:23 Because we cannot allow (speaking in foreign language)
23:28 But (speaking in foreign language)
23:34 You got to get a place for them.
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23:40 Our upper is region.
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23:59 The first place to get gold catcher in Ghana.
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24:13 So you see, (speaking in foreign language)
24:21 All these years, (speaking in foreign language)
24:26 This is what we are currently doing.
24:37 In Sunni, there are no way.
24:39 At the same time, (speaking in foreign language)
24:48 Anything between six months to one year or two, three years.
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24:54 Even $500,000, see the equivalent.
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25:04 The problem is the digging of everywhere.
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25:20 30 seconds.
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25:32 So what does that tell you?
25:53 It speaks volumes of the fact that
25:57 geological investigation is everything.
25:59 That is a key solution to illegal mining.
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