Advertising Console

    Gordon B. Hinckley: US Founders Inspired, God Fearing

    Repost
    Shaun Knapp

    by Shaun Knapp

    17
    1 316 views

    7 comments

    Shaun Knapp
    I think we agree with the notion of Jefferson. The problem is that textbook writers are propagandists. Instead of letting students know Jefferson was devoted to the "True" gospel of Jesus Christ, they distort and make him out to be just anti religion, inferring him to be hostile to the notion of God and biblical precepts. Their propaganda text books leave out the full story.

    As for Columbus, yes, other Spaniards were ruthless, not a question. And one can even wonder at the motives of Columbus, but give it to me straight, give me history, not propaganda. Give me columbus' writings, not merely two sentences making him out to be the greatest wretch of the 15th century.
    By Shaun Knapp8 years ago
    norrin_radd
    The point you made that he, as the others, were devoted bible students, everyone who could read were bible students, I assume that even illiterates took the bible as truth.
    Jefferson was completely right in his belief that churches were manipulated by wicked men I would add that religions are manipulated by wicked men. I pressume that he was well-educated and extremely smart so he probably knew how the bible came into existance and was aware of the mistranslations....OOO its late......got to get up early....
    By norrin_radd8 years ago
    norrin_radd
    I did not quote Jefferson, by the way I would like to correct something of my previous post on what I say about Paine, he was a Deist...on what you right about Columbus, this just proves that he believed in a deity, assuming that your informatiion its truthfull, I do not think that he was a bloodthirsty murderer, but those who came with him, I mean tripulation, were criminals well most of them, that may be an answer as to why texbooks vilify him, but I would argue that he was very aware that his writings were gonna be read in Spain, specifically by the Queen of Spain, so this could be a reason to use a religious language. Thanks fot the input I will check that about Columbus...coming back to Jefferson like I stated at the beggining, I did not quote him, unless you are refering to other quotes which you did not right...but it is confortable to me to assume the opositte...that you misreadit.
    By norrin_radd8 years ago
    Shaun Knapp
    In the quotations of Jefferson, he was a devout christian, though he blasted the churches of his day. As he was a devoted student of the Bible (as all these US Founders were) he could not deal with the churches and saw them as corrupt and full of superstition. There are many, many quotes on this. Because he was hostile toward the churches is twisted by wicked and malignant men to infer that he was not religious or a "believer" himself. They are dead wrong.

    As for Washington, there are way too many quotes that run counter to your quote. I'd like to see your source on that one. Patrick Henry said this:

    “It cannot be emphasized too clearly and too often that this nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religion, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason, peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”
    [May 1765 Speech to the House of Burgesses]
    ~Patrick Henry~
    By Shaun Knapp8 years ago
    Shaun Knapp
    So Norrin,

    I'm left with Government Propaganda textbooks that vilify the US Founders and their predecesors, even Columbus. Columbus spoke much of God and of being moved upon by the
    "Holy Ghost" giving him strength and desire and courage to make the voyage he made. He wrote letters to the King and Queen of Spain demanding that the native people's have equivalent rights before the law as any other Spaniard. Yet this is not left in the history textbooks.

    I attended a lecture that was most enlightening. The researcher showed the last 100 years of standard history textbooks. The 1893 textbook on Columbus had pages and pages of information, most his very own writing, very much speaking of God and God's purposes in inspiring him in his voyage. Then we were shown updates every 20 years of the textbooks. By the 1950's there was nothing of his own words, or mention of God. By the 1993 edition, just one or two sentences vilifying him as a bloodthirsty murderer.
    By Shaun Knapp8 years ago
    Show more comments